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Sex and Hell - consider sex issues in the light of the Bible
Is it important and worth while to consider sex issues in the light of the Bible today?
If one values one's life and future, one will take seriously what God says about sex.
***1 Cor 6: 9 ¶ Do you not know that unrighteous persons shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither sex sinners [Ezek23], . . . nor those who have sex with another's woman &/or those who leave their wives and marry another, . . nor male catamites &/or prostitutes who allow themselves to be homosexually used , nor homosexuals, nor pederasts , 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor abusive persons, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Rev 21:8 But the . . . detestably vile, . . . sexually immoral, . . . —their share/portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.
Hell Fire and Eternal Torment
Why did the God who is patient and kind Love
create Hell and Hell fire?
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Our God has NO PLEASURE in the death of the wicked.
***Eze 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Abba Father does not get his jollies by barbecuing sinners or eternity. Hell is a function of the nature of God and suffering in Hell in a matter of incompatability.
Our God is a holy consuming fire:
***De 4:24 For Jehovah thy God is a consuming fire, a jealous *God.
***De 9:3 Know then this day, that Jehovah thy God is he that goeth over before thee, a consuming fire; he will destroy them, and he will cast them down before thee,
***Isa 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; trembling hath surprised the hypocrites: Who among us shall dwell with the consuming fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting flames?
***Heb 12:29 For also our God is a consuming fire.
What happens when you put "gold, silver, precious stones" in the fire? They remain gold, silver and precious stones.
When Shedrack and Meshack and Abednego were in the fire with Jesus they remained who and as they were because Jesus, by their faith in Him as Jehovah-Jesus, had made them compatible with the fire and His fire did them no harm.
What happens when you put wood, hay, grass, stubble and straw in the fire? They are consumed.
The guards who threw Shedrack and Co. in the fire suffered death by the fire because Jesus had not made them compatible with Himself, because they hadn't been made compatible by faith in Jehovah-Jesus.
***1 Cor 3: 11 ¶ For other foundation can no man lay besides that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any one build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, grass, straw, 13 the work of each shall be made manifest; for the day shall declare it, because it is revealed in fire; and the fire shall try the work of each what it is. 14 If the work of any one which he has built upon the foundation shall abide, he shall receive a reward. 15 If the work of any one shall be consumed, he shall suffer loss, but *he* shall be saved, but so as through the fire.
***1Pe 1:7* that the proving of your faith, much more precious than of gold which perishes, though it be proved by fire, be found to praise and glory and honour in the revelation of Jesus Christ:
The fire that touched Isaiah's lips did not hurt him but purged and cleansed him.
***Isaiah 6: 6 And one of the seraphim flew unto me, and he had in his hand a glowing coal, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar; 7 and he made it touch my mouth, and said, Behold, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin expiated.
The earth shall be purged and cleansed by His fire
***2Pe 3:7 But the present heavens and the earth by his word are laid up in store, kept for fire unto a day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. . . . 12 waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, by reason of which the heavens, being on fire, shall be dissolved, and the elements, burning with heat, shall melt?
Hell and the Lake of Fire is not made for Father and His angels to get their jollies watching a sinners barbecue. Hell and the Lake of Fire causes the death (lack of sinful activity) of sinners and continuously causes the dissolving and burning destruction of the sin of the sinners. At the very least, the torment of Hell for the sinner is being prevented from doing the sins they want to do, and the continuing destruction of all the sin they will and desire to do. Can you imagine forever knowing what you love, long and want to do and never being able to do what you love, long for or want? That is torment. Suffering that kind of torment for ages is Hell.
The rash of murder suicides surely has resulted in the murderers being very surprised that their death wasn't the end of their conscious existence.
*** 1. 1 John 3:15 "Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him."
***Revelation 21:8 "But the cowards, unbelievers, vile, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars—their share will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."
Such murderers have an eternity of wanting to do evil but never being allowed to do it, anger and frustration at not being able to change or improve their situation of torment.
Their victims suffered briefly as the murderers killed them, but for the murderers "is reserved the blackness of darkness forever!" [Jude 1]
What a fate, the blackness of darkness in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur!!!!
Hard to believe that Hell could be a place of fiery darkness? It was hard for me to understand until I saw a Natural Geographic video about underwater volcanoes, where it showed flaming lava glowing brightly in total darkness thousands of feet below the surface of the ocean. There it was, fiery darkness, with all that one would expect of fire and darkness. The darkness was so thick that all one could see was the fiery lava. Not a good place to be.
Hell is a place of fiery darkness in which is contained, isolated and neutralized total falsehood, hatred, selfishness, chaos, confusion, disorder, unending misery, frustration, malice, envy, jealousy, murderous intent, strife, deceit, treachery, ill will, cruelty, backbiting, gossip, slander, hatefulness, insolence, arrogance, stupid boasting; disobedience, and disrespect, where peopleexist without understanding, consciences, faithfulness and areheartless, loveless and merciless.
Rom 1
***Matthew 8:12 But the [unbelieving] sons of the kingdom [of Israel] will be thrown into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. . . . 25:30 And throw this unprofitable slave into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
***Luke 13:28 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth in that place, when you see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the kingdom of God but yourselves thrown out [into the outer darkness].
***Revelation 16: 10And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, 11And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.
***Jude 1: 12 These [people] are spots in your love-feasts, feasting together [with you] without fear, pasturing themselves; clouds without water, carried along by [the] winds; autumnal trees, without fruit, twice dead, rooted up; 13 raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shames; wandering stars, to whom has been reserved the gloomy blackness of darkness for eternity.
After a close examination of the data available in www land about the "after death" experiences of people who have been medically certified as dead - - no brain waves, no heart beat, no blood pressure, no breathing - - most objective observers would come to the conclusion that the death of one's body does not end one's existence. Based on such data and the many supernatural miracles in my own life, I believe Jesus that there is a Heaven, for those who want be with Jesus in His Kingdom, and Hell, for those who don't want His kindly compassionate Love, enlightening LIght, liberating Truth, everlasting Life and wonderful Way.
What a tragedy to try to escape one's problems in this world only to land up for thousands of years in a place devoid of kindness, compassion, Love, enlightenment, Light, Truth and purposeful living - - - a place of unending misery, frustration, malice, envy, jealousy, murderous intent, strife, deceit, treachery, ill will, cruelty, backbiting, gossip, slander, hatefulness, insolence, arrogance, stupid boasting; disobedience, and disrespect where people exist without understanding, consciences, faithfulness and are heartless, loveless and merciless. What a horrible surprise for those who do great evil and/or kill others, and then kill themselves, only to find themselves in such a Hell for ages.
Jesus enlightens every human being that comes into this world (John 1:9) and gives everyone in the world the opportunity to choose (John 16:7-11), Loved all people enough to let them torture His body to death to take the death penalty for all and all their incompatability with God so that anyone who so wills can Live with Him forever, and He respects our choices even though He has no pleasure in the suffering of those who reject Him.
Eternal torment? Sadhu Sundar Singh is the only godly and Spirit filled man I ever knew who believed that the "forever" of Hell was that Hell would last until the "age of the ages"
***Re 19:3 And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever [eis tous aionas ton aionon = from the ages to the age, from the eternities to the eternity].
***Re 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever [eis tous aionas ton aionon].
Apparently to him the age of the ages was the time when "all things shall be subdued unto Him" with the idea that after thousands of years of Hell's fiery darkness, even the devil, the demons and all in Hell would willingly be brought into submission and obedience to God -----------------
***1 Cor 15: 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have abolished all [other] rule and all [other] authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28* And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
-------------------------- a time when Jesus had "put all enemies under his feet" and the Son Himself is subject to Father. The problem I have with that idea is that Jesus has always been voluntarily "subject unto Him that put all things under Him
The problem with that meaning is that it would have Jesus living only from the ages to the age, from the eternities to the eternity, at which time He would allegedly cease to be a Being separate and distinct from Father.
***Re 15:7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.
***Re 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
***Re 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven,
That meaning would have glory being given to Father from the ages to the age, from the eternities to the eternity, at which time He would allegedly cease to be glorified, unless it is understood that in the forever age He is forever be glorified.
***Php 4:20 Now unto God and our Father be glory for ever and ever [from the ages to the ages, from the eternities to the eternities]. Amen.
***1Ch 29:10 Wherefore David blessed the LORD before all the congregation: and David said, Blessed be thou, LORD God of Israel our father, for ever and ever.
According to Singh's view, God would be our God only to the age of the ages. . .
***Ps 48:14 For this God is our God for ever and ever: he will be our guide even unto death.
. . . and that Jehovah-Jesus would only reign to the age of the ages.
***Ex 15:18 The LORD shall reign for ever and ever.
I believe a better understanding of that passage would be that TO THE AGE OF THE AGES signifies UNTIL THE FOREVER AGE, or to the culminating and final AGE OF THE AGES, which I would understand to be when "the Son also Himself [shall] be subject unto Him that put all things under Him, that God may be all in all." In that final forever age, God would be all in all forever. Our God is ETERNAL, the Spirit is ETERNAL, our King is ETERNAL and His power and Godhead is ETERNAL.
***De 33:27 The eternal God is thy refuge, . . .
***Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
***1Ti 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
***Ro 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: . ."
So "eis tous aionas ton aionon", from the ages to the age, from the eternities to the eternity, would indicate that our God is the God of the forever eternal age when He will be "all in all." What does that mean? I don't believe a human's finite mind can come any where close to understanding that.
The Most High God loved the people of the world so very much that He sent and gave His only Son born of a woman, God with us, to be our Passover Lamb to cover and bear the penalty of our sins if we sincerely and genuinely call and depend on King Jesus of Bethlehem ALONE to save us from our sins and present us covered with His perfect righteousness to Abba Father in Heaven.
The Bible gives at least 22 reasons why He allows the suffering experienced in this world. But before we get to them, we must deal with the One we feel is responsible for the suffering in this world. The God who the Most High God in our universe characterizes Himself as Father and Love, the Love described in 1 Cor 13. That means the One who has allowed your suffering, the suffering you are concerned about, the One who controls the extent of the suffering, is One who is characterized by longsuffering, patience, kindness; who is free of envy, evil jealousy, vain boasting, vainglory, haughtiness, conceit, evil pride, rudeness, and selfishness. He is not touchy or fretful or resentful; does not rejoice at injustice and unrighteousness, but rejoices when right and truth prevail, and bears up under anything and everything that comes, is ever ready to believe the best of every person, hopes under all circumstances, endures everything [without weakening], and never fails [never fades out or becomes obsolete or comes to an end]. He has promised that He will work all things together for the good of those who obediently love Him and are called according to [His] design and purpose. Any suffering He allows His children to endure is under His control for the good of His Children.
According to Eph. 1:11 everything is under His control because He works EVERYTHING according to His own will. The world is never out of control. Even though Satan is allowed to be ruler of this world, and he and his demonic angels work and will in people to do the evil they want to do, the book of Job shows us that Satan can't do anything to God's people without God's permission. You may ask, "Why does Jesus let Satan do evil things and work in people to do evil?" How would you feel if your mom said not to taste the desert she just made, and you tried to disobey her but everytime you tried you couldn't move?
How would you feel if your buddy hit you too hard, and every time you tried to hit her back, you froze? How would you feel if some little kid cussed you out, trash talked you and ridiculed you in public in front of your best friends, and ever time you tried to say something hard back or do something to the kid you froze? How would you feel if someone you thought was your friend ruined your best coat and then stole money out of your wallet, thinking you wouldn't see, and you tried to get even but when you tried to do something to your buddy, you became paralyzed?
You wouldn't like that kind of world, where you couldn't do the bad things you want to do. You would feel like a prisoner, or like you were tied up. Jesus made this world so you could choose to not do His will, and choose to do the bad things you want to do, or if you wanted to, you could choose to obey Jesus because you Love Him. This world is made so that you can choose between doing the good and doing the evil, because He doesn't want robots or slaves. He wants people to choose Him because they Love Him. In the meantime, dads will choose to do evil to their daughters, Hitler chose to have killed 20 million people, Stalin chose to have killed 30 million and Mao chose to have killed over 50 million. American mothers have chosen to kill by abortion over 40 million babies since 1960. The beauty is that He has promised that every human being who comes into the world will be enlightened by Jesus before they die (Jn 1:9), even if they haven't been born yet. So everyone has a chance to choose Jesus before they die. He gives us all the opportunity to choose (John 16:7-11).
Dear friend, please remember the point about 1 Cor. 10:13*, He doesn't allow you to be tried more than you can bear, because you are stronger, have a better understanding of spiritual warfare and a deeper faith, the trials will be greater--but never more than you can bear. Consider the trials of John the Baptist and all the apostles except John. They all died violent deaths at the hands of those who hate them, but never more than they could bear. [1 Cor. 10: 12 So let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. 13 No temptation has taken you but [what is] common to man; but God [is] faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted above what you are able, but with the temptation also will make a way to escape, so that you may be able to bear [it].]
An exercise is no exercise if it doesn't challenge you at the point where you have to strain and go aerobic, sometimes painfully. The same with "spiritual" muscles, the trial has to produce stress, strain and even pain for you to become stronger, more capable, more useful and fruitful. The fruitful vine looks terrible when it is pruned, and it would feel terrible if it could feel, but because it is pruned it has the potential of being more fruitful, and I know you want more fruit of the Spirit in your life. I know that you want to compassionately cherish God and others even more than you do now, and that's how you get there.
This life is boot camp and a war, which, thank God, is shortened for our sakes. Our resurrected life with Jesus Christ is worth the struggle. All of our experiences in this mortal life can be used of God to prepare us to help, comfort, teach, encourage, edify etc others better when we are given the opportunity to be his delegated agents on earth as he rules from Jerusalem in fulfillment of His promises to King David. To rule the earth with Him enthroned in Jerusalem for a 1000 years (Rev. 20: 2-7), to walk around as His agents enabled to raise the dead, open the eyes of the blind, to bind up the broken limbs and hearts, to counsel the broken hearted with wisdom inspired of God, to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to free the captives, to teach in power the lost how they can be found etc etc etc etc. I can hardly wait!
If you have suffered maritally, please consider attending a Christian divorce/grief recovery support group. You are still deeply grieving inside over your ex and those "saints" that so deeply and carnally broke your heart. I know that I desperately needed and greatly benefited from the free one I attended at Del Cerro So. Bapt. Church. It was critical in my recovery and in my readiness to be healed and in my learning how and where I needed to grow, to forgive my ex, and to prepare my heart for my next. Many churches and ministries have free support groups that are usually extremely helpful. Please call around for times and places and pray about attending and let the Lord minister to you through the saints. But why does He allow us to suffer, to grieve so deeply and have hearts so broken than you can feel the pain throughout your chest, so depressed that it seems a struggle to survive, grief so deep that you never know what will cause the tears to flow next? Here are some that I have become aware of and they are all for our good. Please consider them and, in each, ask if its goal was accomplished in your life.
We know how the Most High Father let Jesus' body be tortured to death to die in our place for our sins, because of our sins, so that He could be both Just in punishing sin, and Merciful in offering us forgiveness on the basis of relying on Jesus substitutionary and sacrificial death for us. The Spirit tells us that Jesus suffered much for us in His human body so that He would learn, like we have to, that it is best to obey (Heb 5:8,9).
God, The Father, the Consuming Fire, the Most High God sent His only Son born of woman to bear our death penalty, allowing Him to suffer terribly. For about 19 hours the Father allowed His Son to be falsely accused, unjustly tried, verbally abused, physically abused, spit upon, beaten, slapped, punched, slugged, tied up, led away as a prisoner, imprisoned, mocked, ridiculed, flogged Roman style with a whip made of leather strips embedded with pieces of bone or metal that brutally tore His flesh, and stripped in public (Mat 26:6-27:31). His hands and feet were nailed to a cross and for about three to six hours He was hung on a cross publicly to die a slow and exceedingly painful death, every second filled with misery suffering (Mat 27).
***1 Peter 2:19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully. 20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God. 21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
22 “ Who committed no sin,
Nor was deceit found in His mouth”;
23 who, when He was reviled, did not revile in return; when He suffered, He did not threaten, but committed Himself to Him who judges righteously; 24 who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed. 25 For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls. NKJV
***Heb 9: 26 . . . "But now He has appeared one time, at the end of the ages, for the removal of sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27 And just as it is appointed for people to die once—and after this, judgment — 28 so also the Messiah, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him. HCSB
All of the Apostles except John died violent deaths at the hands of persecutors, and they tried to kill John but he was miraculously spared to write Revelation. The Most High Father allowed Paul to suffer terribly and Jesus gave him part of the reason, to save him from pride (2 Cor 12), teaching Him that He makes His strength perfect in our weakness, so that the credit and glory goes to the right person, to Jesus who was living in Paul and in lives in all His children. Jesus allowed Paul to suffer in - - - -
"imprisonments, [beaten] with countless stripes, and frequently [at the point of] death. 24 Five times I received from [the hands of] the Jews forty [lashes all] but one; 25 Three times I have been beaten with rods; once I was stoned. Three times I have been aboard a ship wrecked at sea; a [whole] night and a day I have spent [adrift] on the deep; 26 Many times on journeys, [exposed to] perils from rivers, perils from bandits, perils from [my own] nation, perils from the Gentiles, perils in the city, perils in the desert places, perils in the sea, perils from those posing as believers [but destitute of Christian knowledge and piety]; 27 In toil and hardship, watching often [through sleepless nights], in hunger and thirst, frequently driven to fasting by want, in cold and exposure and lack of clothing." 2 Cor 11
Jesus and the apostles made it clear that significant suffering lies in the path of anyone who becomes a child of God by faith in Jesus Christ alone to be saved from the power, presence and penalty of sin.
***" Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."(2 Timothy 3:11-13)
***Luke 6:22 "Blessed are you when men hate you, And when they exclude you, And revile you, and cast out your name as evil, For the Son of Man’s sake. . . . 21:17 "And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake." ***John 15:19 "If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you."
So how have the children of God suffered in the past according to the Bible and Fox's Book of Martyrs? Is it like their suffering today?
***Heb 11: . . . 24 By faith Moses, when he became of age, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter, 25 choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin, 26 esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt; for he looked to the reward. 27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king; for he endured as seeing Him who is invisible. . . . (NKJV) Others were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection. 36 Still others had trial of mockings and severely painful whippings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment. 37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented— 38 of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth. 39 And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, 40 God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us. . . . 13All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. 14For those who say such things make it clear that they are seeking a country of their own. 15And indeed if they had been thinking of that country from which they went out, they would have had opportunity to return. 16But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God; for He has prepared a city for them. NASB
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04/09 Views on the News from Tyler and the Bible- FYI
CURRENT ISSUES IN THIS POST (Use your finder to go to the topic you want to read)
1. The DHS labels Pro-Lifers, Veterans and Conservatives as DANGEROUS DOMESTIC TERRORISTS and what to do about it.
2. Californians need to support anti-slavery laws to deal with human trafficking of minors
3. Reauthorizing the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act
4. A very bad and dangerous nomination that needs to be challenged
5. More evidence disproving Gore's Global Warming theory
6. More homosexual intolerance
7. Hate speech laws to silence Christians and Bible teaching
8. A Grandfather's prayer re USA continued
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1. The DHS labels Pro-Lifers, Veterans and Conservatives as DANGEROUS DOMESTIC TERRORISTS and what to do about it.
Dear Pro-Lifers, Veterans and Conservatives - - FYI: The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has labeled you, members of the pro-life community, returning "radicalized" veterans, and political and economy conservatives THE MOST DANGEROUS DOMESTIC TERRORISTS.
The DHS warning entitled: ''Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment'' is so troubling that at first, it was hard to believe that Homeland Security could issue such a document.
But it's true. It's been verified. And make no mistake, this unconstitutional report raises serious questions about the leadership and direction of the agency charged with protecting Americans in the ongoing battle against terrorism.
Why would the Department of Homeland Security single out groups like returning veterans, political conservatives and pro-life supporters when they should be focusing on identifying and apprehending the real terrorists - like al-Qaeda - groups that have vowed to destroy America?
This characterization is not only offensive to millions of Americans who hold constitutionally-protected religious views opposing abortion, euthenasia, immorality - but also raises serious concerns about the political agenda of an agency with a mandate to protect America.
The founder of the Center for Liberty and Justice said, "I encourage you to watch my interview on FOX News to find out more about this troubling issue ... you won't believe how the government has singled out conservatives, Christians - and even our veterans - as dangerous to our country."
American Center for Law and Justice
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2. Californians need to support anti-slavery laws to deal with human trafficking of minors
Criminalizing slavery and human trafficking in California. Please contact your California
elected legislators to support the following:
A. Swanson's AB 16
Meant to protect those under 18 from being solicited to become prostitutes,
and prosecute those who try to have sex with minors
B. Swanson's AB 17
Enables the court to imprison and confiscate the property of those offenders
described in AB 16
C. Swanson's AB 559
Criminalizes those who try to influence a minor to have commercial sex, and those
who try to obtain commercial sex from minors
D. Brownley's AB 988
Helps the minor victims of these crimes recover from the crimes, especially those
who are not citizens
E. Yee's SB 577
Enables the government to confiscate the property of those who do these crimes against minors
F. Steinberg's SB 657
Requires retail sellers and manufacturers to be in full compliance with and cooperation with all anti-slavery and human trafficking laws
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3. 3. Reauthorizing the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act
Hi, this letter came from Oprah.com but I encourage everyone to email it to your government official so funding for Adam's Act will continue. Thanks
Dear Senator / Representative (find email address on their websites or go to https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml;
http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml)
I am sure you share my belief that we must do everything in our power to help protect our children from sexual predators in our communities. That is why I am asking for your help today.
I am extremely concerned about how we track registered sex offenders in our country. According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, an estimated 100,000 sex offenders are unaccounted for and not living where they are registered. Because law enforcement agencies are too underfunded and overwhelmed to track them, these dangerous predators are free to roam undetected from state to state, targeting and re-offending more innocent children.
The Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act, which was signed into law in 2006, created a National Sex Offender Registry, but recent news reports reveal most states will not be in compliance with the law by the upcoming July deadline. Supporters of the law acknowledge there are adjustments that should be made to the law, but they are adamant, as am I, that the basic purpose and spirit of Adam's act must be upheld. The act calls for a National Sex Offender Registry,
which is critical to the safety of our children.
I implore you to reexamine this law with fellow lawmakers, reauthorize it and see that it is fully funded. I realize our country's current economic crisis will not make this charge an easy one, but what could be more urgent and of greater importance than the safety and well-being of our children?
Sincerely,
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4. A very bad and dangerous nomination that needs to be challenged
Take Action: Oppose Nomination of Pro-Abortion Sebelius
'The revelations that Gov. Sebelius owed back taxes and (has) deep financial ties to the abortion industry invite a serious question about her integrity.'
President Barack Obama's nominee to lead the Health and Human Services Department appears to integrity issues.
Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius has admitted tax problems, and failed to report $23,000 in campaign contributions from the notorious abortionist George Tiller, who proudly kills babies in the womb during the last three months of the mothers' pregnancy, after being asked by the Senate Finance Committee to reveal such information.
If confirmed by the full Senate, the pro-abortion governor would be able to profoundly influence federal and state policies on abortion, of conscience, bioethics, end-of-life issues, and the distribution of federal funding to abortion providers such as Planned Parenthood.
"The revelation that Gov. Sebelius owed back taxes and now the additional disclosure of her deep financial ties to the abortion industry invite a serious question about her integrity," said Tony Perkins, president of FRC Action. "What else has she not told us? What other alliances are there?"
Please write/call/email your federal representatives about your opposition to her nomination.
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5. More evidence disproving Gore's Global Warming theory
Gore's Global warming myth disproved - - - - -
***Climate change is constant and ongoing, with or without mankind
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,333328,00.html
www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm
www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Widescale+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm
www.cbn.com/CBNnews/584180.aspx
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090409104134.htm
www.ourcivilisation.com/aginatur/moregw.htm
www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=19468
www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20070315&articleId=5086
www.discovery.org/v/30
http://www.museum.state.il.us/exhibits/ice_ages/
http://www.geology.iastate.edu/gccourse/model/co2/seedsci.html
***Book Title: Climate of Extremes
Author: Patrick Michaels
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/584180.aspx
***Book Title: GLOBAL WARMING MYTH AND MARXISM
Author: Edward F. Blick, Ph.D.
http://www.swrc.com/bookstore/newthismonth/april/myth.html
***See also on www Jens Pedersen of the
Danish Space Institute and their
Svensmark cosmic ray theory.
www.cbn.com/CBNnews/584405.aspx
www.newscientist.com/blog/environment/2008/04/sunset-on-cosmic-rays-theory.html
http://www.space.dtu.dk/English/Research/Research_divisions/Sun_Climate.aspx
physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/33645
***No global warming since 1998 due to lack of sunspots. The average temperature of the world has been dropping since 1998:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/19/january-2008-4-sources-say-globally-cooler-in-the-past-12-months/
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6. More homosexual intolerance
" Miss North Carolina Kristen Dalton was crowned Miss USA on Sunday, but the big story to come out of the normally politics-free telecast was Miss California's comments regarding gay marriage."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517137,00.html
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7. Hate speech laws to silence Christians and Bible teaching
Hate Crime Law Being Used to Persecute Christians
and deny their freedom of speech, their freedom to live their faith
and teach what the Bible says to teach.
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:c5iVnQ3IXPUJ:www.traditionalvalues.org/inserts/0105PhiladelphiaFive.pdf+hate+crime+hate+speech+Christians&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=mozilla
www.christianpost.com/Society/Politics/2009/04/house-committee-to-vote-on-hate-crimes-bill-17/index.html
www.truthtellers.org/hatecrimes.html
www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40774
www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/apr/09042407.html
http://www.mnnonline.org/article/12576
PLEASE WRITE/EMAIL YOUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES ASKING THEM TO VOTE "NO" ON THE HATE SPEECH LAWS
https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml;
http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
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8. A Grandfather's Prayer Continued
***Holy Father of our risen and soon to return King Jesus Christ,
King of all Kings, I pray that the poor and
needy be rescued and delivered out of the hands of the wicked. Cause us
to learn to do well, to seek righteous and holy judgment/justice for
those who need it, gladden the oppressed, do justice to the fatherless,
plead for the widow. Please work and will in Your children and all
those involved to execute judgment/justice and righteousness, to
deliver the spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor, to do no wrong to
others, to do no violence to the stranger, homeless, the fatherless, or
the widow, and to not shed innocent blood. Please work and will in us,
Your chlldren, to visit and help orphans, widows and bereft women in
their affliction, and to keep ourselves unspotted from the world.
May King Jesus, the King of Glory and Power, rebuke, strike with ineffectiveness and
render unable to do more evil those who deny justice to the poor and
needy; those who afflict, oppress, spoil and do unjust and unrighteous
violence to others, shedding innocent blood. For victim and evil doer I
ask that you enlighten them of Your Love, Truth, Light, Life and Way;
convicting them of their sins, Your judgment on their sins, and Your
righteousness and holiness that requires such judgment; constraining
them by Your Holy Spirit, drawing them to You and granting them
repentance to the acknowledgment and acceptance of Your Love, Truth,
Light, Life and Way in Jesus Christ.
Holy Father, I accept Your Word in Luke 6 so I call on You to do in and with me that which I cannot do on my own. I ask and trust You to work and will^ in me to patiently, kindly, unselfishly and compassionately Love my enemies, to do good to those who hate me and my loved ones, to bless those who curse me, to pray for those who mistreat me and my loved ones. Merciful Father it is not naturally in me to offer my other cheek after an evil doer has hit me on the cheek; to not hold back my shirt when an evil doer takes away my coat, so I call on You to work and will^ this in me. My will is to love You enough to obey You, so work and will^ in me to give something to everyone who asks me for something, to not ask for the return of things taken away from me by an evil doer Just as you want others to do for you, do the same for them. It is impossible for me to naturally do good and lend expecting nothing in return, to be gracious and merciful to ungrateful and evil people, so I call on You to accomplish^ it in me.
^Hebrews 13:20,21; Phil 2:13; 4:13; Gal 2:20; John 15:1-5; Eph 2:8-10; 1 Cor 1:25-31
Father in Heaven, I want to Love you enough to obey Your Word in Rom 12, so please work and will^ Your Spirit fruit in me so that You enable me to rejoice in hope; be patient in affliction; be persistent in prayer.; to share with the saints in their needs; to pursue hospitality; to bless those evil doers who persecute me and my loved ones instead of cursing them. I am unable to do this on my own, so I call on You to work and will^ in me to not repay anyone evil, harm and injury for evil, harm and injury. Enable^ and work in me to do what is honorable in Your eyes, to do my part to live at peace with everyone. Please enable and work^ in me to not avenge myself, to leave room for Your wrath and vengeance, for I accept Your Word as it is written: "Vengeance belongs to Me; I will repay, says the Lord." Holy Father, by Your Holy Spirit work and will^ in me to feed my enemy if he/she is hungry, to give something to drink to my enemy if he/she is thirsty, and to conquer evil, harm and injury with Your good in Jesus Christ.
^Hebrews 13:20,21; Phil 2:13; 4:13; Gal 2:20; John 15:1-5; Eph 2:8-10; 1 Cor 1:25-31
Almighty God, work and will in us to have the courage and readiness to take a stand for You and not be co-participants in, or fellow-partakers of, the evil of those who disobey You~, even if it means we have disobey* human laws and officials; to not partake of or participate in the ungodly deeds; and to patiently, gently, humbly and respectfully reprove, confute, admonish, convict, convince and rebuke those who disobey You, telling them of the evil in which they have become ensnared~. Father, we call on You and Trust You to enable us to obey You and teach Your disciples to observe everything You have commanded us`, even if it means we have to disobey* human laws and officials, including observing Your Word about sexual morality, creation, and infanticide - killing babies in the womb.` As Your child and subject, as a citizen of Your Kingdom, I accept my responsibility, as I have opportunity and ability,
to break the bonds and chains of wickedness,
to untie the restraining ropes of enslaving, oppressive and burdensome restraints;^
to set the oppressed free,
to protect foreigners,
to unselfishly, patiently, kindly and compassionately love and provide for the foreign resident;^
to try to help and provide justice for the needy, the fatherless, the widow and the helpless;
to rescue the poor and needy from the hands of the wicked,
to rescue those wrongfully taken off to be killed, those moving toward slaughter in the womb or outside of it;^
to uphold the rights of the oppressed and the destitute,
to remove every burdensome and oppressing restraint,
to share my bread with the hungry,
to give something to drink to the thirsty,
to provide housing for the poor and homeless,
to clothe the naked when I encounter them,
to help take care of the sick and imprisoned,
to see to it that bereft women and children are taken care of,
to not ignore or neglect my own familial flesh and blood,
to rid my life of scornful and accusatory finger-pointing and malicious speaking,
to offer that with which I sustain my own life to the hungry that I encounter,
and to do my best to meet the needs of the afflicted I encounter^, even if it means we have to disobey* human laws and officials to do so.
*Acts 5:28-30; Daniel 3 + 6; Gen 39:9-11; Exod 1:16-21; 2:1-4; Rom 13:1-7 + Hebrews 11:13-16
~Eph 5:7-11: 2Tim 2:24-26; Gal 6:1
`Mat 29:19,20; Acts 20:25-35
^ Isaiah 58; Matthew 25; James 1:27; Psa 82:3, 4; Jer 22:16; Deut 24:17; 10:18; Prov 24:11; Psa 10:14; 146:9; 68:5;
Father, the rulers and leaders of Pagan Nineveh turned to You from their sins believing the prophetic warning of Jonah, but the rulers and leaders of America reject and dismiss as irrelevant the warnings given by Your servants in America. Because of the growing animosity and hostile behavior of most of the educators, politicians, legislators, judges, society's leaders and the influential rich of America towards Jesus, His Bible and His disciples, making themselves Your enemies and the enemies of Your disciples, I pray that You (FromPsa82:1) keep not silence, O God; hold not Your peace or be still, O God.
2For, behold, Your enemies are in tumult, and those who hate You have raised their heads. 3They lay crafty schemes against Your people and consult together against Your hidden and precious ones. 4They have said, Come, and let us wipe them out. . . [to] be in remembrance no more. 5For they have consulted together with one accord and one heart; against You they make a covenant-- 13O my God, make them like whirling dust, like stubble or chaff before the wind! 14As fire consumes the forest, and as the flame sets the mountains ablaze, 15So pursue and afflict them with Your tempest and terrify them with Your tornado or hurricane. 16Fill their faces with shame, that they may seek and inquire for Your name, O Lord. 17Let them be put to shame and dismayed . . . ; yes, let them be put to shame and [their evil] perish, 18That they may know that You, Whose name alone is the Lord, are the Most High over all the earth. 13 Make them like tumbleweed, my God, like straw before the wind. 14 As fire burns a forest, as a flame blazes through mountains, 15 so pursue them with Your tempest and terrify them with Your storm. 16 Cover their faces with shame so that they will seek Your name, LORD. 17 Let them be put to shame and terrified . . . ; let [their evil] perish in disgrace. 18 May they know that You alone— whose name is Yahweh— are the Most High [God] over all the earth.
PSALMS 37 on the life of Christians in the USA today
1 Don't make yourself worried or anxious because of evildoers, neither be envious against those who work unrighteousness .
2For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb.
3Trust (lean on, rely on, and be confident) in the Lord and do good; so shall you dwell in the land and feed surely on His faithfulness, and truly you shall be fed.
4Delight yourself also in the Lord, and He will give you the desires and secret petitions of your heart.
5Commit your way to the Lord; trust (lean on, rely on, and be confident) also in Him and He will bring it to pass.
6And He will make your uprightness and right standing with God go forth as the light, and your justice and right as [the shining sun of] the noonday.
7Be still and rest in the Lord; wait for Him and patiently lean yourself upon Him. Don't make yourself worried or anxious because of him who prospers in his way, because of the man who brings wicked devices to pass.
8Cease from anger and forsake wrath; fDon't make yourself worried or anxious--it tends only to evildoing.
9For evildoers shall be cut off, but those who wait and hope and look for the Lord [in the end] shall inherit the earth.
10For yet a little while, and the evildoers will be no more; though you look with care where they used to be, they will not be found.
11But the meek [in the end] shall inherit the earth and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
12The wicked plot against the [persevering] righteous (in right standing with God); they gnash at them with their teeth.
13The Lord laughs at [the wicked], for He sees that their own day [of defeat] is coming.
14The wicked draw the sword and bend their bows to cast down the poor and needy, to slay those who walk uprightly (blameless in conduct and in conversation).
15The swords [of the wicked] shall enter their own hearts, and their bows shall be broken.
16Better is the little that the [persevering] righteous have than the abundance [of possessions] of many who are wrong and wicked.
17For the arms of the wicked shall be broken, but the Lord upholds the [perseveringly] righteous.
18The Lord knows the days of the upright and blameless, and their heritage will abide forever.
19They shall not be put to shame in the time of evil; and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.
20But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the Lord shall be as the fat of lambs [that is consumed in smoke] and as the glory of the pastures. They shall vanish; like smoke shall they consume away.
21The wicked borrow and pay not again, but the [perseveringly] righteous deal kindly and give.
22For such as are blessed of God shall [in the end] inherit the earth, but they that are cursed of Him shall be cut off.
23The steps of a [godly] man are directed and established by the Lord when He delights in his way.
24Though he falls, he shall not be utterly cast down, for the Lord grasps his hand in support and upholds him.
25I have been young and now am old, yet have I not seen the [perseveringly] righteous forsaken or their seed begging bread.
26All day long they are merciful and deal graciously; they lend, and their offspring are blessed.
27Depart from evil and do good; and you will dwell forever [securely].
28For the Lord delights in justice and forsakes not His saints; they are preserved forever, but the offspring of the wicked [in time] shall be cut off.
29[Then] the [perseveringly] righteous shall inherit the land and dwell upon it forever.
30The mouth of the [perseveringly] righteous utters wisdom, and his tongue speaks with justice.
31The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.
32The wicked lie in wait for the [perseveringly] righteous and seek to put them to death.
33The Lord will not leave them in their hands, or condemn them when they are judged.
34Wait for and expect the Lord and keep and heed His way, and He will exalt you to inherit the land; when the wicked are cut off, you shall see it.
35I have seen a wicked man in great power and spreading himself like a green tree in its native soil,
36Yet he passed away, and behold, he was not; yes, I sought and inquired for him, but he could not be found.
37Mark the blameless man and behold the upright, for there is a happy end for the man of peace.
38As for transgressors, they shall be destroyed together; in the end the wicked shall be cut off.
39But the salvation of the [perseveringly] righteous is of the Lord; He is their Refuge and secure Stronghold in the time of trouble.
40And the Lord helps them and delivers them; He delivers them from the wicked and saves them, because they trust and take refuge in Him.
So I confide in Jehovah, and do good, dwell in the land, feed on
His faithfulness; and delight thyself in Jehovah, committing my way and
concerns unto Jehovah, and rely upon Him; resting in Jehovah, waiting
patiently for Him: calling on Him to enable me to not fret myself because
of the evil ones who prosper in their way, because of those who bring
evil and mischievous devices to pass; calling on Him to work and will in
me to be careful about nothing; but in everything, by prayer and
supplication with thanksgiving, let my requests be made known to God.
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Sex and Hell - consider sex issues in the light of the Bible
Is it important and worth while to consider sex issues in the light of the Bible today?
If one values one's life and future, one will take seriously what God says about sex.
***1 Cor 6: 9 ¶ Do you not know that unrighteous persons shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither sex sinners [Ezek23], . . . nor those who have sex with another's woman &/or those who leave their wives and marry another, . . nor male catamites &/or prostitutes who allow themselves to be homosexually used , nor homosexuals, nor pederasts , 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor abusive persons, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Rev 21:8 But the . . . detestably vile, . . . sexually immoral, . . . —their share/portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.
Hell Fire and Eternal Torment
Why did the God who is patient and kind Love
create Hell and Hell fire?
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Our God has NO PLEASURE in the death of the wicked.
***Eze 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Abba Father does not get his jollies by barbecuing sinners or eternity. Hell is a function of the nature of God and suffering in Hell in a matter of incompatability.
Our God is a holy consuming fire:
***De 4:24 For Jehovah thy God is a consuming fire, a jealous *God.
***De 9:3 Know then this day, that Jehovah thy God is he that goeth over before thee, a consuming fire; he will destroy them, and he will cast them down before thee,
***Isa 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; trembling hath surprised the hypocrites: Who among us shall dwell with the consuming fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting flames?
***Heb 12:29 For also our God is a consuming fire.
What happens when you put "gold, silver, precious stones" in the fire? They remain gold, silver and precious stones.
When Shedrack and Meshack and Abednego were in the fire with Jesus they remained who and as they were because Jesus, by their faith in Him as Jehovah-Jesus, had made them compatible with the fire and His fire did them no harm.
What happens when you put wood, hay, grass, stubble and straw in the fire? They are consumed.
The guards who threw Shedrack and Co. in the fire suffered death by the fire because Jesus had not made them compatible with Himself, because they hadn't been made compatible by faith in Jehovah-Jesus.
***1 Cor 3: 11 ¶ For other foundation can no man lay besides that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any one build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, grass, straw, 13 the work of each shall be made manifest; for the day shall declare it, because it is revealed in fire; and the fire shall try the work of each what it is. 14 If the work of any one which he has built upon the foundation shall abide, he shall receive a reward. 15 If the work of any one shall be consumed, he shall suffer loss, but *he* shall be saved, but so as through the fire.
***1Pe 1:7* that the proving of your faith, much more precious than of gold which perishes, though it be proved by fire, be found to praise and glory and honour in the revelation of Jesus Christ:
The fire that touched Isaiah's lips did not hurt him but purged and cleansed him.
***Isaiah 6: 6 And one of the seraphim flew unto me, and he had in his hand a glowing coal, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar; 7 and he made it touch my mouth, and said, Behold, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin expiated.
The earth shall be purged and cleansed by His fire
***2Pe 3:7 But the present heavens and the earth by his word are laid up in store, kept for fire unto a day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. . . . 12 waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, by reason of which the heavens, being on fire, shall be dissolved, and the elements, burning with heat, shall melt?
Hell and the Lake of Fire is not made for Father and His angels to get their jollies watching a sinners barbecue. Hell and the Lake of Fire causes the death (lack of sinful activity) of sinners and continuously causes the dissolving and burning destruction of the sin of the sinners. At the very least, the torment of Hell for the sinner is being prevented from doing the sins they want to do, and the continuing destruction of all the sin they will and desire to do. Can you imagine forever knowing what you love, long and want to do and never being able to do what you love, long for or want? That is torment. Suffering that kind of torment for ages is Hell.
The rash of murder suicides surely has resulted in the murderers being very surprised that their death wasn't the end of their conscious existence.
*** 1. 1 John 3:15 "Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him."
***Revelation 21:8 "But the cowards, unbelievers, vile, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars—their share will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."
Such murderers have an eternity of wanting to do evil but never being allowed to do it, anger and frustration at not being able to change or improve their situation of torment.
Their victims suffered briefly as the murderers killed them, but for the murderers "is reserved the blackness of darkness forever!" [Jude 1]
What a fate, the blackness of darkness in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur!!!!
Hard to believe that Hell could be a place of fiery darkness? It was hard for me to understand until I saw a Natural Geographic video about underwater volcanoes, where it showed flaming lava glowing brightly in total darkness thousands of feet below the surface of the ocean. There it was, fiery darkness, with all that one would expect of fire and darkness. The darkness was so thick that all one could see was the fiery lava. Not a good place to be.
Hell is a place of fiery darkness in which is contained, isolated and neutralized total falsehood, hatred, selfishness, chaos, confusion, disorder, unending misery, frustration, malice, envy, jealousy, murderous intent, strife, deceit, treachery, ill will, cruelty, backbiting, gossip, slander, hatefulness, insolence, arrogance, stupid boasting; disobedience, and disrespect, where peopleexist without understanding, consciences, faithfulness and areheartless, loveless and merciless.
Rom 1
***Matthew 8:12 But the [unbelieving] sons of the kingdom [of Israel] will be thrown into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. . . . 25:30 And throw this unprofitable slave into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
***Luke 13:28 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth in that place, when you see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the kingdom of God but yourselves thrown out [into the outer darkness].
***Revelation 16: 10And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, 11And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.
***Jude 1: 12 These [people] are spots in your love-feasts, feasting together [with you] without fear, pasturing themselves; clouds without water, carried along by [the] winds; autumnal trees, without fruit, twice dead, rooted up; 13 raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shames; wandering stars, to whom has been reserved the gloomy blackness of darkness for eternity.
After a close examination of the data available in www land about the "after death" experiences of people who have been medically certified as dead - - no brain waves, no heart beat, no blood pressure, no breathing - - most objective observers would come to the conclusion that the death of one's body does not end one's existence. Based on such data and the many supernatural miracles in my own life, I believe Jesus that there is a Heaven, for those who want be with Jesus in His Kingdom, and Hell, for those who don't want His kindly compassionate Love, enlightening LIght, liberating Truth, everlasting Life and wonderful Way.
What a tragedy to try to escape one's problems in this world only to land up for thousands of years in a place devoid of kindness, compassion, Love, enlightenment, Light, Truth and purposeful living - - - a place of unending misery, frustration, malice, envy, jealousy, murderous intent, strife, deceit, treachery, ill will, cruelty, backbiting, gossip, slander, hatefulness, insolence, arrogance, stupid boasting; disobedience, and disrespect where people exist without understanding, consciences, faithfulness and are heartless, loveless and merciless. What a horrible surprise for those who do great evil and/or kill others, and then kill themselves, only to find themselves in such a Hell for ages.
Jesus enlightens every human being that comes into this world (John 1:9) and gives everyone in the world the opportunity to choose (John 16:7-11), Loved all people enough to let them torture His body to death to take the death penalty for all and all their incompatability with God so that anyone who so wills can Live with Him forever, and He respects our choices even though He has no pleasure in the suffering of those who reject Him.
Eternal torment? Sadhu Sundar Singh is the only godly and Spirit filled man I ever knew who believed that the "forever" of Hell was that Hell would last until the "age of the ages"
***Re 19:3 And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever [eis tous aionas ton aionon = from the ages to the age, from the eternities to the eternity].
***Re 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever [eis tous aionas ton aionon].
Apparently to him the age of the ages was the time when "all things shall be subdued unto Him" with the idea that after thousands of years of Hell's fiery darkness, even the devil, the demons and all in Hell would willingly be brought into submission and obedience to God -----------------
***1 Cor 15: 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have abolished all [other] rule and all [other] authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28* And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
-------------------------- a time when Jesus had "put all enemies under his feet" and the Son Himself is subject to Father. The problem I have with that idea is that Jesus has always been voluntarily "subject unto Him that put all things under Him
The problem with that meaning is that it would have Jesus living only from the ages to the age, from the eternities to the eternity, at which time He would allegedly cease to be a Being separate and distinct from Father.
***Re 15:7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.
***Re 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
***Re 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven,
That meaning would have glory being given to Father from the ages to the age, from the eternities to the eternity, at which time He would allegedly cease to be glorified, unless it is understood that in the forever age He is forever be glorified.
***Php 4:20 Now unto God and our Father be glory for ever and ever [from the ages to the ages, from the eternities to the eternities]. Amen.
***1Ch 29:10 Wherefore David blessed the LORD before all the congregation: and David said, Blessed be thou, LORD God of Israel our father, for ever and ever.
According to Singh's view, God would be our God only to the age of the ages. . .
***Ps 48:14 For this God is our God for ever and ever: he will be our guide even unto death.
. . . and that Jehovah-Jesus would only reign to the age of the ages.
***Ex 15:18 The LORD shall reign for ever and ever.
I believe a better understanding of that passage would be that TO THE AGE OF THE AGES signifies UNTIL THE FOREVER AGE, or to the culminating and final AGE OF THE AGES, which I would understand to be when "the Son also Himself [shall] be subject unto Him that put all things under Him, that God may be all in all." In that final forever age, God would be all in all forever. Our God is ETERNAL, the Spirit is ETERNAL, our King is ETERNAL and His power and Godhead is ETERNAL.
***De 33:27 The eternal God is thy refuge, . . .
***Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
***1Ti 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
***Ro 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: . ."
So "eis tous aionas ton aionon", from the ages to the age, from the eternities to the eternity, would indicate that our God is the God of the forever eternal age when He will be "all in all." What does that mean? I don't believe a human's finite mind can come any where close to understanding that.
The Most High God loved the people of the world so very much that He sent and gave His only Son born of a woman, God with us, to be our Passover Lamb to cover and bear the penalty of our sins if we sincerely and genuinely call and depend on King Jesus of Bethlehem ALONE to save us from our sins and present us covered with His perfect righteousness to Abba Father in Heaven.
The Bible gives at least 22 reasons why He allows the suffering experienced in this world. But before we get to them, we must deal with the One we feel is responsible for the suffering in this world. The God who the Most High God in our universe characterizes Himself as Father and Love, the Love described in 1 Cor 13. That means the One who has allowed your suffering, the suffering you are concerned about, the One who controls the extent of the suffering, is One who is characterized by longsuffering, patience, kindness; who is free of envy, evil jealousy, vain boasting, vainglory, haughtiness, conceit, evil pride, rudeness, and selfishness. He is not touchy or fretful or resentful; does not rejoice at injustice and unrighteousness, but rejoices when right and truth prevail, and bears up under anything and everything that comes, is ever ready to believe the best of every person, hopes under all circumstances, endures everything [without weakening], and never fails [never fades out or becomes obsolete or comes to an end]. He has promised that He will work all things together for the good of those who obediently love Him and are called according to [His] design and purpose. Any suffering He allows His children to endure is under His control for the good of His Children.
According to Eph. 1:11 everything is under His control because He works EVERYTHING according to His own will. The world is never out of control. Even though Satan is allowed to be ruler of this world, and he and his demonic angels work and will in people to do the evil they want to do, the book of Job shows us that Satan can't do anything to God's people without God's permission. You may ask, "Why does Jesus let Satan do evil things and work in people to do evil?" How would you feel if your mom said not to taste the desert she just made, and you tried to disobey her but everytime you tried you couldn't move?
How would you feel if your buddy hit you too hard, and every time you tried to hit her back, you froze? How would you feel if some little kid cussed you out, trash talked you and ridiculed you in public in front of your best friends, and ever time you tried to say something hard back or do something to the kid you froze? How would you feel if someone you thought was your friend ruined your best coat and then stole money out of your wallet, thinking you wouldn't see, and you tried to get even but when you tried to do something to your buddy, you became paralyzed?
You wouldn't like that kind of world, where you couldn't do the bad things you want to do. You would feel like a prisoner, or like you were tied up. Jesus made this world so you could choose to not do His will, and choose to do the bad things you want to do, or if you wanted to, you could choose to obey Jesus because you Love Him. This world is made so that you can choose between doing the good and doing the evil, because He doesn't want robots or slaves. He wants people to choose Him because they Love Him. In the meantime, dads will choose to do evil to their daughters, Hitler chose to have killed 20 million people, Stalin chose to have killed 30 million and Mao chose to have killed over 50 million. American mothers have chosen to kill by abortion over 40 million babies since 1960. The beauty is that He has promised that every human being who comes into the world will be enlightened by Jesus before they die (Jn 1:9), even if they haven't been born yet. So everyone has a chance to choose Jesus before they die. He gives us all the opportunity to choose (John 16:7-11).
Dear friend, please remember the point about 1 Cor. 10:13*, He doesn't allow you to be tried more than you can bear, because you are stronger, have a better understanding of spiritual warfare and a deeper faith, the trials will be greater--but never more than you can bear. Consider the trials of John the Baptist and all the apostles except John. They all died violent deaths at the hands of those who hate them, but never more than they could bear. [1 Cor. 10: 12 So let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. 13 No temptation has taken you but [what is] common to man; but God [is] faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted above what you are able, but with the temptation also will make a way to escape, so that you may be able to bear [it].]
An exercise is no exercise if it doesn't challenge you at the point where you have to strain and go aerobic, sometimes painfully. The same with "spiritual" muscles, the trial has to produce stress, strain and even pain for you to become stronger, more capable, more useful and fruitful. The fruitful vine looks terrible when it is pruned, and it would feel terrible if it could feel, but because it is pruned it has the potential of being more fruitful, and I know you want more fruit of the Spirit in your life. I know that you want to compassionately cherish God and others even more than you do now, and that's how you get there.
This life is boot camp and a war, which, thank God, is shortened for our sakes. Our resurrected life with Jesus Christ is worth the struggle. All of our experiences in this mortal life can be used of God to prepare us to help, comfort, teach, encourage, edify etc others better when we are given the opportunity to be his delegated agents on earth as he rules from Jerusalem in fulfillment of His promises to King David. To rule the earth with Him enthroned in Jerusalem for a 1000 years (Rev. 20: 2-7), to walk around as His agents enabled to raise the dead, open the eyes of the blind, to bind up the broken limbs and hearts, to counsel the broken hearted with wisdom inspired of God, to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to free the captives, to teach in power the lost how they can be found etc etc etc etc. I can hardly wait!
If you have suffered maritally, please consider attending a Christian divorce/grief recovery support group. You are still deeply grieving inside over your ex and those "saints" that so deeply and carnally broke your heart. I know that I desperately needed and greatly benefited from the free one I attended at Del Cerro So. Bapt. Church. It was critical in my recovery and in my readiness to be healed and in my learning how and where I needed to grow, to forgive my ex, and to prepare my heart for my next. Many churches and ministries have free support groups that are usually extremely helpful. Please call around for times and places and pray about attending and let the Lord minister to you through the saints. But why does He allow us to suffer, to grieve so deeply and have hearts so broken than you can feel the pain throughout your chest, so depressed that it seems a struggle to survive, grief so deep that you never know what will cause the tears to flow next? Here are some that I have become aware of and they are all for our good. Please consider them and, in each, ask if its goal was accomplished in your life.
We know how the Most High Father let Jesus' body be tortured to death to die in our place for our sins, because of our sins, so that He could be both Just in punishing sin, and Merciful in offering us forgiveness on the basis of relying on Jesus substitutionary and sacrificial death for us. The Spirit tells us that Jesus suffered much for us in His human body so that He would learn, like we have to, that it is best to obey (Heb 5:8,9).
God, The Father, the Consuming Fire, the Most High God sent His only Son born of woman to bear our death penalty, allowing Him to suffer terribly. For about 19 hours the Father allowed His Son to be falsely accused, unjustly tried, verbally abused, physically abused, spit upon, beaten, slapped, punched, slugged, tied up, led away as a prisoner, imprisoned, mocked, ridiculed, flogged Roman style with a whip made of leather strips embedded with pieces of bone or metal that brutally tore His flesh, and stripped in public (Mat 26:6-27:31). His hands and feet were nailed to a cross and for about three to six hours He was hung on a cross publicly to die a slow and exceedingly painful death, every second filled with misery suffering (Mat 27).
***1 Peter 2:19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully. 20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God. 21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
22 “ Who committed no sin,
Nor was deceit found in His mouth”;
23 who, when He was reviled, did not revile in return; when He suffered, He did not threaten, but committed Himself to Him who judges righteously; 24 who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed. 25 For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls. NKJV
***Heb 9: 26 . . . "But now He has appeared one time, at the end of the ages, for the removal of sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27 And just as it is appointed for people to die once—and after this, judgment — 28 so also the Messiah, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him. HCSB
All of the Apostles except John died violent deaths at the hands of persecutors, and they tried to kill John but he was miraculously spared to write Revelation. The Most High Father allowed Paul to suffer terribly and Jesus gave him part of the reason, to save him from pride (2 Cor 12), teaching Him that He makes His strength perfect in our weakness, so that the credit and glory goes to the right person, to Jesus who was living in Paul and in lives in all His children. Jesus allowed Paul to suffer in - - - -
"imprisonments, [beaten] with countless stripes, and frequently [at the point of] death. 24 Five times I received from [the hands of] the Jews forty [lashes all] but one; 25 Three times I have been beaten with rods; once I was stoned. Three times I have been aboard a ship wrecked at sea; a [whole] night and a day I have spent [adrift] on the deep; 26 Many times on journeys, [exposed to] perils from rivers, perils from bandits, perils from [my own] nation, perils from the Gentiles, perils in the city, perils in the desert places, perils in the sea, perils from those posing as believers [but destitute of Christian knowledge and piety]; 27 In toil and hardship, watching often [through sleepless nights], in hunger and thirst, frequently driven to fasting by want, in cold and exposure and lack of clothing." 2 Cor 11
Jesus and the apostles made it clear that significant suffering lies in the path of anyone who becomes a child of God by faith in Jesus Christ alone to be saved from the power, presence and penalty of sin.
***" Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."(2 Timothy 3:11-13)
***Luke 6:22 "Blessed are you when men hate you, And when they exclude you, And revile you, and cast out your name as evil, For the Son of Man’s sake. . . . 21:17 "And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake." ***John 15:19 "If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you."
So how have the children of God suffered in the past according to the Bible and Fox's Book of Martyrs? Is it like their suffering today?
***Heb 11: . . . 24 By faith Moses, when he became of age, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter, 25 choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin, 26 esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt; for he looked to the reward. 27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king; for he endured as seeing Him who is invisible. . . . (NKJV) Others were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection. 36 Still others had trial of mockings and severely painful whippings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment. 37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented— 38 of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth. 39 And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, 40 God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us. . . . 13All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. 14For those who say such things make it clear that they are seeking a country of their own. 15And indeed if they had been thinking of that country from which they went out, they would have had opportunity to return. 16But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God; for He has prepared a city for them. NASB
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Godly Vs. Ungodly Sex - CORRECTED, EXPANDED AND IMPROVED
Copyright 6/23/'06; Revised 11/14/07; 5/15/08; 9/11/08; 03/23/09
This is a text for unedited and unchanged distribution on the net and
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by Lee Tyler, P.O.Box 620763, San Diego,
CA 92162-0763; getting2knoya@gmail.com;
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
INTRODUCTION
[1]. A single woman touching/doing the genital of a man . . .
[2]. A single woman receiving the penis of a man in her mouth . . .
[3.] A single woman receiving a penis in her anus . . .
[4.] A single woman letting a man touch his penis to her skin . . .
[5.] If a man imagines and/or thinks about doing any of the sex sins above . . .
[6.] If a man imagines, thinks about or actually does touch any part of a woman's skin . . .
[7.] If a woman imagines, thinks about or actually does touch any part of a man's skin . . .
[8.] The act of sexually stimulating oneself to to orgasm, . . .
[9.] As far as I know, it is a Romans 14 issue if a single woman has the doubt-free
faith/belief that it is acceptable to . . .
[10.] Touching a woman's breasts &/or nipples, lesbianism, seeing a woman's
hairy genitals . . .
[11.] embracing, handling, pressing, using and/or squeezing the breasts of a woman - - - -
[12.] Laying bare, uncovering, and/or exposing the pudenda/vulva/labia/vagina/clitoris
of a woman - - -
[13.] Oral sex when single or with a single woman - - -
[14.] MORE THOUGHTS ON ORAL AND ANAL SEX
15.] DOING UNGODLY SEXUAL THINGS TO A PERSON
[16] Thinking of doing sex with a cartoon/animation image - - -
[17] Types of marriage in the Bible
[18.] Important terms, words and concepts dealing with sexual morality - - - -
[19.] Homosexuality, bisexuality, lesbianism
[20.] THE POSITIVE SIDE OF THE SEX COIN
INTRODUCTION
To understand what Jesus Word tells us today about godly sex and ungodly
sex we need to see what He told us about sex in the Old Testament, the
Old Covenant and the Law He gave to Moses. God began to reveal His
moral code in the Old Testament, especially to Moses, so we have to look at
it to see what the Bible says about sex. It is clearly understood that Gentiles,
those who are not Jews, not descendants of Israel or or those who
covenanted with Jesus-Jehovah at Sinai - - that such people are no longer
required by Jesus-Jehovah to keep, observe and obey the Old Testament
Law. But it is clear that when Jesus used the terms fornication, i.e. sex sin
including adultery, homosexuality, incest and all sexual relations between
two people who are not joined together by God in marriage
- - He did not change the Old Testament definition of sex sin. When the
Spirit led the Apostles in Acts 15 and 21 to declare to be free from OT
Law observance all who are not descendants of the Sinai covenanters,
Israel and the mixed multitude, He did not change the Old Testament definition
of sex sin when He led the Apostles to declare - - -
++++25* But concerning those of the nations who have believed, we have
written, deciding that they should observe no such thing, only to keep
themselves both from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from
things strangled, and from fornication.? Acts 21
So we who are under the New Covenant, the Law of Christ, are expected
by God to keep ourselves from what the OT Law declares to be sex sin.
While the definitions came into the Church age unchanged, the social
and legal consequences of sex sin under OT Law did not remain unchanged.
Israel today and no other country on earth observes and/or enforces the OT
Law's social and legal consequences of sex sin. So let?s consider how the
OT Law defines the sex sin from which we are to carefully and diligently abstain.
A key word in this consideration is Strong's 07901 shakab {shaw-kab'}; v
Qal: to lie, lie down, lie on, to lie (of sexual relations, relating to another
by means of a sex organ)
***Lev 18:22 And thou shalt not have genital contact<07901> with mankind
as one has genital contact with a woman: it is an abomination. 23 And thou
shalt have genital contact<07901> with no beast to become unclean [by genital
fluids] therewith; and a woman shall not stand before a beast to have genital
contact <07901> with it: it is confusion.
So any genital contact between two people of the same sex and/or
anyone having genital contact with animals represents sin and is not fit for a
follower of Christ to do, see or think about (Phil 4:8) or enjoy (Rom 1:32)
***Exod 22:16 And if a man seduce a virgin that is not betrothed, and
have genital contact<07901> with her, he shall certainly endow her, to be
his wife.
***De 22:22 If a man be found having genital contact<07901> with a woman
married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that had
genital contact<07901> with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put
away evil from Israel. 23 * If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an
husband, and a man find her in the city, and have genital contact<07901> with her; . . .
25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her,
and have genital contact<07901> with her: then the man only that had genital
contact<07901> with her shall die: . . . 28 * If a man find a damsel that is a virgin,
which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and have genital contact<07901>
with her, and they be found; 29 * Then the man that had genital contact<07901>
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be
his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
The 3rd Century B.C. Jewish translators who gave us the Septuagint
rendered "Shakab" in the Greek as "Koitayn". Koitayn is rendered by
Lexigraphers Strong and Thayer as "cohabitation, . . . sexual intercourse."
Sexual intercourse is communicating with another by means of a sex organ.
Harper's Analytical Greek Lexicon agrees. Lexigraphers Arndt & Gingrich go
even further rendering it as "sexual intercourse, . . . seminal emission
(Num 5:20 . . . Lev 15:16f, 32; 18:20; 22:4 . . .)." This is the Greek word used
in Heb 13:4 of marital sex in the marriage bed. To have sexual intercourse with
someone is to be communicating and/or interacting with someone by means of a sex
organ (penis, pudenda, vulva, clitoris, vagina). If a person does not
realize that there is communication and interaction when the penis of a
man touches the skin of a woman, that person doesn't know sex.
Nonverbal communication is as significant as verbal communication and
powerful and effective nonverbal communication is the penis of a man
touching the skin or mucous membrane of a woman, or the
clitoris/labia/pudenda/vulva/vagina of a woman touching the skin or
mucous membrane of a man, or the breast/nipple of a woman of a woman
touching the skin or mucous membrane of a man. Only the ignorant fail
to realize the reality of the nonverbal communication between the man
and the woman that takes place when the penis of a man is inside the
body of a woman or touches the skin of a woman.
Body fluids make one defiled or unclean under the Law. A woman who has
contact with the penis fluids of a man who is not her own man maritally
has been "defiled" sexually, and is fornication since a woman, under
the Law should be defiled by penis fluids only by her own man. See Gen
34:5,13,27; Deut 22:20-30.
From the Holy Spirit's use of <07901> above I understand the following:
[1]. A single woman touching/doing the genital of a man is a single woman
relating to a man by means of his genital, therefore it is <07901
shakab or Koitayn> behavior.
***Exod 22:16 And if a man seduce a virgin that is not betrothed, and
have genital contact<07901> with her, he shall certainly endow her, to be
his wife.
***De 22:22 If a man be found having genital contact<07901> with a woman
married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that
had genital contact<07901> with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou
put away evil from Israel. 23 * If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an
husband, and a man find her in the city, and have genital contact<07901> with
her; . . . 25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her,
and have genital contact<07901> with her: then the man only that had genital
contact<07901> with her shall die: . . . 28 * If a man find a damsel that is a virgin,
which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and have genital contact<07901>
with her, and they be found; 29 * Then the man that had genital contact<07901>
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be
his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
If her relating to the man by his genital (anally, orally or manually)
was voluntary and she did not cry out for someone to rescue her from the
man's sexual activity,it was sex sin (Deut 22:23-29; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor
6:9-20), the sex sin we are told to avoid and flee from in Acts 21:25 and 2 Tim
2:22. Such sin should be avoided by disciples of Jesus Christ. "19 . . . I want you
to do what is good and to avoid what is evil." Rm 16 GW
[2.] A single woman receiving the penis of a man in her mouth is a single woman relating
to a man by means of his genital, therefore it is <07901 shakab> behavior.
***Exod 22:16 And if a man seduce a virgin that is not betrothed, and
have genital contact<07901> with her, he shall certainly endow her, to be
his wife.
***De 22:22 If a man be found having genital contact<07901> with a woman married
to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that had genital
contact<07901> with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from
Israel. 23 * If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband,
and a man find her in the city, and have genital contact<07901> with her; . . .
25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her,
and have genital contact<07901> with her: then the man only that had genital
contact<07901> with her shall die: . . . 28 * If a man find a damsel that is a virgin,
which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and have genital contact<07901>
with her, and they be found; 29 * Then the man that had genital contact<07901>
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his
wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
If her relating to the man by his genital orally was voluntary and she did not cry
out for someone to rescue her from the man's sexual activity, it was sex sin
(Deut 22:23-29; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20), the sex sin we are told
to avoid and flee from in Acts 21:25 Rm 16:9 and 2 Tim 2:22. Such
sex should be avoided by disciples of Jesus Christ. "27 Avoid evil, do good, and
live forever." GW
[3.] A single woman receiving a penis in her anus is a single woman relating to a
man by means of his genital, therefore it is <07901 shakab> behavior.
***Exod 22:16 And if a man seduce a virgin that is not betrothed, and
have genital contact<07901> with her, he shall certainly endow her, to be
his wife.
***De 22:22 If a man be found having genital contact<07901> with a woman
married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that
had genital contact<07901> with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou
put away evil from Israel. 23 * If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an
husband, and a man find her in the city, and have genital contact<07901> with
her; . . . 25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her,
and have genital contact<07901> with her: then the man only that had genital
contact<07901> with her shall die: . . . 28 * If a man find a damsel that is a virgin,
which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and have genital contact<07901>
with her, and they be found; 29 * Then the man that had genital contact<07901>
with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be
his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
If her relating to the man by his genital anally was voluntary and she did not cry
out for someone to rescue her from the man's sexual activity, it was sex sin
(Deut 22:23-29; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20), the sex sin we are told
to avoid and flee from in Acts 21:25 and 2 Tim 2:22. Such sex sin should be avoided
by disciples of Jesus Christ. "3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you
abstain from sexual immorality; 4that each one of you know how to control his own
body in holiness and honor, 5not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not
know God;" 1 Th 4
[4.] A single woman letting a man touch his penis to her skin (feet, legs, thighs,
buttocks, buns, stomach, back, hand, arm, arm pit, neck, face and/or mouth) is a
single woman relating by her skin to a man by means of his genital, therefore it is
<07901 shakab> behavior. If her relating to the man by his genital and her skin
was voluntary and she did not cry out for someone to rescue her from the man's
sexual activity, it was sex sin (Deut 22:23-29; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20), the
sex sin we are told to avoid and flee from in Acts 21:25 and 2 Tim 2:22. Such sex
sin should be avoided by disciples of Jesus Christ. "22 Abstain from every form of
evil." 1 Th 5 ESV
[5.] If a man imagines and/or thinks about doing any of the sex sins above with a
single woman, it is <07901 shakab> behavior, it is sex sin (Mat 5;28; Deut 22:23-29;
Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20), the sex sin we are told to avoid and flee
from in Acts 21:25 and 2 Tim 2:22. Such sex sin should be avoided by disciples of
Jesus Christ. "25 . . . we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should
abstain from . . . sexual immorality.? Acts 21 ESV
[6.] If a man imagines, thinks about or actually does touch any part of a
woman's skin other than her privates (pudenda, vagina, clitoris, vulva,
labia, anus, breasts, nipples) with any part of his body than his penis and/or
scrotum, it is not specifically or explicitly declared to be sin in the Bible,
as far as I know, and comes under the principles of Romans 14. So as
far as I know, it is a Romans 14 matter for a man to imagine, think
about or actually use his hands or feet to massage a single woman's
feet, legs, thighs, buns, stomach, back, neck, hands, arms and/or face. The husband
has sexual authority over the body of his wife (1 Cor 7:3,4), so any
other man should get permission from him before he imagines, thinks about or actually
touches those nonsexual parts of another man's woman.
[7.] If a woman imagines, thinks about or actually does touch any part of
a man's skin other than his penis and/or scrotum with any part of her
body other than her her privates (pudenda, vagina, clitoris, vulva, labia, anus,
breasts, nipples), it is not specifically or explicitly declared to be sin in
the Bible, as far as I know, and comes under the principles of Romans
14. So as far as I know, it is a Romans 14 matter for a single woman to
imagine, think about or actually let a man use his hands/feet to
massage her feet,
legs, thighs, buns, stomach, back, neck, hands, arms and/or face. The
husband has sexual authority over the body of his wife (1 Cor 7:3,4),
so any other man should get permission form him before she lets another
man imagine, think about or actually touch those parts of hers; and she
needs to get her own man's permission before she lets another man
imagine, think about or actually touch her nonsexual parts.
[8.] The act of sexually stimulating oneself to to orgasm, without
physical contact with another, is no where in the Bible declared
specifically, explicitly or clearly to be sin, as long as one does not
think sexually sinful thoughts, does not think of or imagine doing sex
sin while stimulating oneself. Self-stimulation that doesn't involve thoughts
of actions that are
specifically, explicitly and clearly declared to be sin by God, such
self-stimulation becomes a matter of Romans 14. As far as I know, if a
man has the doubt-free faith/belief that it is acceptable to God to
self-stimulate to orgasm while thinking about kissing, licking and/or
manually touching a single woman's feet, legs, thighs, buns, back,
stomach, neck, hands, arms and/or face - while and after having
massaged those body parts with olive oil and honey, it is a Romans 14
issue and he should have such faith/belief and/or practice privately,
discretely and secretly before God according to Romans 14:22-23, being
very careful to not discuss,debate or argue about doing it (Rom 14:1; 2 Tim 2:22-24)..
[9.] As far as I know, it is a Romans 14 issue if a single woman has the doubt-free
faith/belief that it is acceptable to God to self-stimulate to orgasm while thinking
about a man kissing, licking and/or manually touching her feet, legs, thighs,
buns, back, stomach, neck, hands, arms and/or face; and she should have such
faith/belief and/or practice privately, discretely and
secretly before God according to Romans 14:22, being very careful to not discuss,
debate or argue about doing it (Rom 14:1; 2 Tim 2:22-24).
[10.] Touching a woman's breasts &/or nipples, lesbianism, seeing a woman's
hairy genitals . . .
From Ezek 23 we learn more about sex sin in the following
amplified (using Strong?s Lexicon) paraphrase:
'Son of man, there were two women, daughters of one mother. 3 And they
committed SEX SIN in Egypt; they committed SEX SIN in their youth:
there were their breasts pressed, squeezed, handled, and pressed and
there were handled, pressed, squeezed the nipples of their virginity. .
. . 8 Neither left she her SEX SINS brought from Egypt; for in her youth they had
genital contact with her, and had handled, pressed, and squeezed the breasts
and nipples of her virginity, and poured their sex sin upon her. . . 10 These laid
bare and made known her pudenda and vagina, . . . and they executed
judgment upon her. . . . . . 17 And the children of Babylon came to
her in the genital contact of lovemaking, and their sexual
emissions defiled her with their SEX SIN; she shared her sexual
emissions with them , and her soul was alienated from them. . . 18 And
she laid bare and made known her sex sins, and laid bare and made known
her pudenda and vagina; and my soul was alienated from her, like as my
soul was alienated from her sister. . . . 20* and she desired to do evil with
their female lovers, whose [sexual] flesh is as the [sexual] flesh of
asses, and whose [sexual] issue is as the [sexual] issue of horses. 21
And you remembered the [sexually] loose ways of your early years, in
the handling and using of your breasts and nipples by the Egyptians,
for the [desire of your] breasts of your youth. . . . Behold, I will
raise up your lovers against you, from whom your soul is alienated, and
I will bring them against you on every side. 23 . . all of them
attractive young men, governors and rulers, great lords and renowned,
all of them riding upon horses. 24 And they shall come against you . .
. and I will put judgment before them, and they shall judge you
according to their judgments. 25 And I will set my jealousy against
you, and they shall deal furiously with you: they shall cut off your
nose and your ears, and your remnant shall fall by the sword; they
shall take your sons and your daughters; and your residue shall be
devoured by the fire. 26 They shall also strip you of your garments,
and take away your fair jewels. [Ezek 23]
The sex sins described above should be avoided by disciples of
Jesus Christ. "25 . . . we have sent a letter with our judgment that
they should abstain from . . . sexual immorality.? Acts 21 ESV
[11.] embracing, handling, pressing, using and/or squeezing the breasts of a woman - - - -
Couple Ezek 23 - - -
3* And they committed SEX SIN in Egypt; they committed SEX SIN in their
youth: there were their breasts pressed, squeezed, handled, and pressed
and there were handled, pressed, squeezed the nipples of their
virginity. . . 8* Neither left she her SEX SINS brou ght from Egypt;
for in her youth they had genital contat with her, and had handled,
pressed, and squeezed the breasts and nipples of her virginity, and
poured their sex sin upon her. . . 21 And she made the memory of the
loose ways of her early years come back to mind, in the handling and
using of your breasts and nipples by the Egyptians, for the [desire of
your] breasts of your youth.
- - - - with Prov 5 - - - - -
Prov 5:19,20 [with Strong's references] And why will you, my son, be ravished
<07686> (8799) with an immoral woman estranged [from God and His
people]<02114> (8801), and embrace <02263> (8762) the bosom <02436> of
one who is an alien [to God and His people] <05237>?
- - - - the understanding I have is that embracing, handling, pressing,
using and/or squeezing the breasts of a woman who is not your own woman
maritally - - - whether or not the breats/nipples be clothed or bare -
- - - is sex sin.
The sex sins described above should be avoided by disciples of Jesus Christ. "25 . .
. we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should abstain
from . . . sexual immorality." Acts 21 ESV
[12.] Laying bare, uncovering, and/or exposing the pudenda/vulva/labia/vagina/clitoris of a woman - - -
> Ezek 23 makes it clear that it is sex sin to lay bare, uncover,
and/or expose the pudenda/vulva/labia/vagina/clitoris of a woman who is
not your own marital partner
"18* And she laid bare and made known her sex sins, and laid bare and
made known her pudenda and vagina; and my soul was alienated from her,
like as my soul was alienated from her sister."
A woman laying bare and publicly exposing her pudenda/vagina/labia/anus
should be avoided by disciples of Jesus Christ.
"18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside
he body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body." 1Cor ESV
[13.] Oral sex when single or with a single woman - - -
>The nonJewish Christian might be tempted to use 1 Tim 4:1-4 to
rationalize doing oral sex when single or with a single woman. The
error in that is that it is essential to realize that "fornication,
sexual immorality, sex sin" at the time of Acts 14, before the
nonJewish Christians were released from most of the Sinai Law in Acts
15 and 21:15-26 - - - is the same sin after Acts 15 and 21 for Jewish
Christians. This means nonJews/Gentiles have to carefully observe the
principles given in Rom 14, 1 Cor 8 and 10 in their fellowship with
Jewish Christians who are still observing the Sinai Law. For a proper
understanding of the Word on "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin"
when the Spirit led the Apostles in Acts 15 and Acts 21:15-26, it has
to be observed that the Spirit did not move the Apostles to change the
definition of "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin". Just as Jesus
did not change the definition of "fornication, sexual immorality, sex
sin" when He first spoke of "fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin"
in Mat 5:32; 19:9; the Apostles - inspired by the Spirit - in the same
way did not change the definition of "fornication, sexual immorality,
sex sin" when they instructed the nonJewish Christians to avoid
"fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin" in Acts 15 and Acts 21:15-26.
Oral sex and anal sex were sin for Jewish Christians because of the
Sinai Laws of sex and uncleanness that both Jesus and the Apostles
observed (Mat 23:3; Acts 21:24, 25, 26) the same Sinai Laws about
"fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin" that the Spirit imposed on
the nonJewish Christians when they told them to abstain from
"fornication, sexual immorality, sex sin" in Acts 15 and Acts 21:15-26.
Oral sex and anal sex were sin for Jewish Christians during Acts 14,
and they continued to be sin after Acts 15. That at least means that
nonJewish/Gentile Christians must be careful to observe Romans 14; 1
Cor 8 and 1 Cor 10 as to oral and anal sex when relating to Jewish
believers.
Consider the principle of Romans 14 re Gentile sexual relations (paraphrased
in [brackets] for application and clarity):
Rom 14:1 Now accept the one who weak in faith, but not for passing judgment
on or disputing his opinions/doubts. . . . 16 Let not then your [conviction that
oral sex is] good be evil spoken of; 17 for the kingdom of God is not [oral sex]
and [self-stimulation], but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.
18 For one that in this [controversy about oral sex] serves the Christ is
acceptable to God and approved of men. 19 So then let us pursue the things
which tend to peace, and things whereby one shall build up another. 20 For
the sake of [oral sex] do not destroy the work of God. All things [including oral
sex] indeed are pure; but it is evil to that one who [does oral sex] while
stumbling [in sin] because of his/her doubts about its rightness. 21 It is right not
to [do oral sex], nor [not do oral sex], nor do anything in which thy brother [or sister]
stumbles [striking the toe of one's conscience against an obstacle inducing one to
sin by acting in doubt], or is offended [or stumbles or is enticed to act without faith
or think unfavourably or unjustly of another and so displeased and indignant], or is
made weak [morally feeble, without strength, powerless]. 22 Have you faith [to
believe that oral sex is right and so practice it]? Have that conviction to yourself
before God. Blessed is the one who does not judge oneself in what [belief or
practice of oral sex] one allows [with a firm and convinced faith in its rightness].
23 But one that doubts [about the rightness of oral sex], if [that] one [does oral
ex], [that one] is condemned; because that one did oral sex not because of faith
[in its rightness]; but whatever [behavior or thought does not originate from] faith
[in its rightness before God] is sin.
Oral sex and genital to skin contact involves unholiness, uncleanness.
The sin of uncleanness is the sin of violating holiness,
sanctification, being set apart only for designated actions/functions.
In marriage the wife's body is sexually sanctified, set apart, for her
husband who has sexual authority over it; and the husband's body is
sanctified, set apart, for his wife who has sexual authority over it (1
Cor 7:2-5). Holiness and moral cleanness are really important thing to
God. In heterosexual relations, relating to someone by means of a sex
organ, with someone other than your own marital partner is uncleanness
and is a violation of holiness and sanctification.
[14.] MORE THOUGHTS ON ORAL AND ANAL SEX
Acts 15 and 21 make it clear that in the early church there were two very distinct
communities, the Jews who had accepted Jesus as their Messiah and the Gentiles
(nonJews) who had accepted Jesus as their God, King, Savior, Deliverer, Redeemer.
The Spirit made it clear in Acts 15:20,29; and 21:25 that at that time the Gentile
(nonJewish) believers were in the minority and were attending fellowships where
most of the believers were Jewish, so the Gentile believers were instructed to abstain
from behaviors that would deeply offend the Jewish believers. In 1 Tim 4:1-5 the
Spirit revealed that when the Gentile believers were not in the presence of Jewish
believers, they could eat any meat they receive with thanksgiving to God. Even
after the Gentile believers' Declaration of Independence from the Sinai Law,
given in Ephes 2 and Colos 2, if they were fellowshipping with Jewish believers
they were still required to fellowship with them in the manner prescribed in 1 Cor
8:8-13 and 1 Cor 10:23-32.
For Jewish believers oral and/or anal sex involve unholiness, uncleanness.
In the Sinai Law the sin of uncleanness is the sin of violating holiness,
sanctification, being set apart only for designated actions/functions.
Holiness and moral cleanness are really important thing to God. Leviticus
has many of the Sinai Laws declaring what is unclean and what uncleanness
is. The instructions in Leviticus about uncleanness make it clear that for
Jewish believers oral and anal sex should be avoided to be blessed of God.
For Gentile believers there is no Scripture that explicity and specifically condemns
oral and/or anal sex between a husband and his wife. Read Lev 18 and Lev 20
for yourself and see. There are very real and genuine health hazards with anal sex
especially, but there are also health dangers with oral sex. Oral sex exposes both
to cardnerella vaginalis, and the infectious species found in the
mouths of those who have gingivitis and peridontitis that can
result in bladder infections, and for the man, prostate infections.
Anal sex exposes both to enterococcus faecalis, staphylococcus
aureus; staphylococcus epidermidis, streptococcus agalactiae,
enterobacter species, escherichia coli, klebsiella species,
proteus species, bifidobacterium species, peptococcus species,
peptostreptococcus species; propionibacterium species,
bacteroides species, B. fragilis, E-coli and pseudomonas, that are
deadly and antibacterial resistant. Anal sex can result in serious bladder and
prostate infections for the man. It is shere madness to have anal-oral sex no matter
how clean you may think you both are before the act, unless you both place little
value on your health and lives. So absolute cleanliness is necessary before
after and during oral or anal sex. If the wife chooses to let her husband do anal sex,
she should use a water enema first followed by a Fleet Regular Oil eneama soon
before having genital-anal sex.
The couple should not do anal sex if the wife has soft or loose bowel
movements, because anal sex results in a weakening of the rectal
sphincter, which results in bowel leakage from the anus/rectum,
requiring the wife to have to wear panty liners to catch the bowel
leakage.
If either partner has gingivitis or peridontitis, gum diseases
evidenced by bleeding gums when brushing teeth, it is possible to give
your mate bladder infections and vagina infections in oral sex.
The key passage for oral and anal sex is Romans 14, and I amplify and
[apply] here to help your understanding:
'19 So then, we must pursue what promotes peace and what builds up one
another. 20 Do not tear down God's work because of food [or marital
sex acts]. Everything is clean, but it is wrong for a man to cause
stumbling by what he eats [or does in marital sex]. 21 It is a noble
thing not to eat meat, or drink wine, or do ANYTHING that makes your
brother/sister stumble. 22 Do you have faith [the Bible based and Spirit
confirmed belief that oral/anal sex is acceptable to God]? [Privately and
discretely] keep it to yourself before God. Blessed is the [person] who
does not condemn him/herself by what he/she approves. 23 But
whoever doubts [the rightness of marital oral/anal sex] stands
condemned if he/she [does it], because his/her [marital sex] is not
from faith [based on the Bible and Spirit confirmed], and everything
that is not from faith is sin.'
The instructions in 1 Cor 8 & 10 make it clear that if Gentile believers
believe in and practice anal and/or oral sex, they need to obey Rom
14:1 and not discuss or debate these issues with the Jewish believers,
and they definitely need to make sure that they do not tell the Jewish
believers that they do oral and/or anal sex in their own marriages (Rom 14).
If you have doubts about the rightness before God of oral &/or anal sex
in your marital intimacy, you shouldn't do it and your husband shouldn't
coerce you into doing it.
[15.] DOING UNGODLY SEXUAL THINGS TO A PERSON
We know a person Loves and is Loving when he/she Loves a person with a
Love that is patient and kind, which knows neither envy nor jealousy,
is not self-advancing and self-assertive, nor irritable, boastful,
conceited or resentful; that does not behave unbecomingly, rudely,
arrogantly, nor seek to aggrandize herself, nor blaze out in
passionate anger, nor brood over wrongs; and that finds no pleasure in
injustice done to others, but joyfully sides with the truth; which
knows how to be silent, is full of trust, full of hope, and full of
patient endurance. To treat another person in any other way than this
way, described in 1 Cor 13, is to do sin to that other person. People being
treated in any way contrary to the Way of Love described here is showing sin
and should be avoided, abstained from, rebuked and not seen.
" 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these
things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7
Therefore do not associate with them; . . . 10 and try to discern what
is pleasing to the Lord. 11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of
darkness, but instead expose them." Eph 5 ESV So expose these sex sins
that are works of darkness.
[16] What about thinking of doing sex with a cartoon/animation image?
What about enjoying a cartoon showing a woman exposing her
pudenda/vulva/vagina/anus to you and the viewing public?
Just as it is sin to enjoy and delight in people doing sex sin, it is
sinful to enjoy any representation of sex sin, whether it be with
people, animals, cartoons or animations. For you to enjoy seeing a
cartoon female do sex sin, or to see a cartoon figure do what would be
sex sin for people, is to enjoy the thought of that sex sin, to enjoy
the sex sin shown in the cartoon/animation. Sure the figures are not
real, but if the act they are demonstrating is sinful, then you are
enjoying the idea of that act. If you enjoy seeing a female cartoon
figure show her vagina, labia, clitoris, anus, you are enjoying the
idea of that sex sin.
>>>"32 In short, though knowing full well the sentence which God
pronounces against actions such as theirs, as things which deserve
death, they not only keep on doing them, but even encourage and applaud
others who do them. . . ." Rom 1 >>>"4 For the weapons of our
warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy
strongholds. 5 We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised
against the knowledge of God, and TAKE EVERY THOUGHT CAPTIVE to obey
Christ, 6 being ready to punish every disobedience, when your
obedience is complete.
If you think of relating with a cartoon figure by means of your
genital, when you know that the only one you should relate to by means
of your genital is the mate to whom God has joined you in marriage, you are
doing sex sin with a cartoon image. God's solution for
sex sin is for each man to be sexually having his own woman, not for
each man to be imagining have sex with a cartoon figure. To find
another solution other than God's is sin. >>>"1Cor 7:2 but
because of cases of immorality, every man should be having his
own woman, and each [woman should be] having her own husband."
>>>"5And Jehovah seeth that abundant is the wickedness of man in the
earth, and every IMAGINATION OF THE THOUGHTS of his heart only evil all
the day; 6and Jehovah repenteth that He hath made man in the earth, and
He grieveth Himself?unto His heart" Gen 6 Yng
>>>" 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these
things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7
Therefore do not associate with them; . . . 10 and try to discern what
is pleasing to the Lord. 11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of
darkness, but instead expose them." Eph 5 ESV
[17] The Bible and Polygyny
***Ex 20:22 "And the Lord said to Moses, "Thus shall you say to the Israelites, You have seen for yourselves that I have talked with you from heaven. . . 21:1 And these are the ordinances you [Moses] shall set before [the Israelites]. . . .7 If a man sells his daughter to be a maidservant or handmaid, she shall not go out [free] as the bondmen go out. 8 If she is unacceptable in the eyes of her master, who has not espoused her to himself, he shall let her be redeemed. To sell her to a foreign people he shall have no power, for he has dealt faithlessly with her. . . 10 If he takes ANOTHER WIFE to himself, her food, clothing, and conjugal privilege as a wife he shall not diminish. 11 And if he does not do these three things for her, then shall she go out free, without payment of money."
***Deut 6: "1And these are the commandments, the statutes, and the ordinances, which Jehovah your God commanded to teach you, that you may do them in the land whereunto you pass over to possess it, . . . 21: 15 If a man have TWO WIVES, one beloved, and one hated, and they have borne him children, both the beloved and the hated, and the firstborn son be hers that was hated; . . . 1 7 but he shall acknowledge as firstborn the son of the hated, . . ."
***2Sam 3:2 Sons were born to David at Hebron: his firstborn was Amnon, by Ahinoam the Jezreelitess; 3 and his second, Chileab, by Abigail the widow of Nabal the Carmelite; and the third, Absalom the son of Maacah, the daughter of Talmai, king of Geshur; . . . 5:13 And David took more CONCUBINES and WIVES out of Jerusalem, after he came from Hebron, and other sons and daughters were born to [him]. 4 and the fourth, Adonijah the son of Haggith; and the fifth, Shephatiah the son of Abital; 5 and the sixth, Ithream, by David's wife Eglah. These were born to David at Hebron. . . .7:8 So now say this to My servant David, Thus says the Lord of hosts: I took you from the pasture, from following the sheep, to be prince over My people Israel. . . . 16 And your house and your kingdom shall be made sure forever before you; your throne shall be established forever. . . 18 Then King David went in and sat before the Lord, and said, Who am I, O Lord God, and what is my house, that You have brought me this far? . . . 29 Therefore now let it please You to bless the house of Your servant, that it may continue forever before You; for You, O Lord God, have spoken it, and with Your blessing let [his] house be blessed forever. . [Jehovah-Jesus blessed David the polygynist with at least seven wives/concubines]. . 12:7 Then Nathan said to David, You are the man! Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: I anointed you king of Israel, and I delivered you out of the hand of Saul. 8And I gave you your master's house, and your master's WIVES into your bosom, and gave you the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would have added that much again. . . . 11 Thus says the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against you out of your own house; and I will take your WIVES before your eyes and give them to your neighbor, and he shall lie with your WIVES in the sight of this sun. . . . 16:21 Ahithophel replied to Absalom, "Sleep with your father's CONCUBINES he left to take care of the palace. When all Israel hears that you have become repulsive to your father, everyone with you will be encouraged." 22 So they pitched a tent for Absalom on the roof, and he slept with his father's CONCUBINES in the sight of all Israel. [wives=concubines=wives]
***Mat 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to do away with or undo the Law or the Prophets; I have come not to do away with or undo but to complete and fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until the sky and earth pass away and perish, not one smallest letter nor one little hook [identifying certain Hebrew letters] will pass from the Law until all things [it foreshadows] are accomplished. 19 Whoever then breaks or does away with or relaxes one of the least [important] of these commandments and teaches men so shall be called least [important] in the kingdom of heaven, but he who practices them and teaches others to do so shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." . . . 23: 1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat, 3 so practice and observe whatever they tell you— but not what they do. For they preach, but do not practice."
***Acts 15:3 So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through both Phoenicia and Samaria, describing in detail the conversion of the Gentiles, and brought great joy to all the brothers. . . . 5 But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, "It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses. . . . "The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. 24 Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, . . . 28For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: 29 that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell." . . . 21:18 The following day Paul went in with us to James, and all the elders were present. . . . 20 And when they heard it, they glorified God. And they said to him, "You see, brother, how many thousands there are among the Jews of those who have believed. They are all zealous for the Law, . . . 24 take these men and purify yourself along with them and pay their expenses, so that they may shave their heads. Thus all will know that there is nothing in what they have been told about you, but that YOU [PAUL] YOURSELF ALSO LIVE IN OBSERVANCE OF THE LAW [given to Moses]. 25 But as for the Gentiles who have believed, we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality."
In light of all of this, after seeing that Jesus-Jehovah legislated polygyny under Moses, blessed King David while he had wives and concubines, after blessing him the giving him Saul's widows as additional wives/concubines, stated the importance of obeying the Law given to Moses before He was crucified, by His Spirit released the nonJewish believers from having to obey the Law without releasing the Paul and the Apostles from having to obey the Law (not for salvation but to keep their ancestors' covenant and as part of the good works to which they were called Eph 2:8,9,10), one has no Biblical or Scriptural basis for declaring the Law's Biblical polygyny to be sin. There is great danger in declaring to be sin that which God does not declare to be sin. See Deut 4:2; 12:32; and Prov 30:6.
***Mark 7:7 in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'
8You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men.". . .
13 thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And many such things you do."
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[18.] Important terms, words and concepts dealing with sexual morality - - - -
From the useage of the word in the passages listed below, we see how
Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary describes these sexual acts in its
definition of intercourse, "3: physical sexual contact between
individuals that involves the genitalia of at least one person." We
know that sexual relations are relations where one relates to another
by means of a sex organ, the penis, scrotum, pudenda, vulva, labia,
clitoris, and/or vagina. Fluids from the body can make one unclean, an
important issue for Jewish Christians who are still observing the Sinai
Law, like the Apostles in Acts 15 & 21; Eph 2:10 and Tt 3:8.
Lev 15:32This is the law for him that hath a flux, and for the one
whose seed of copulation goeth from him, and who is defiled<02930>
(8738) therewith:
Num 5:13 . . . and she be defiled <02930> (8738) . . . 14 . . . and she
be defiled <02930> (8738) . . . 20 But if thou hast gone aside <07847>
(8804) to another instead of thy husband <0376>, and if thou be defiled
<02930> (8738) . . . 27 . . . then it shall come to pass, that, if she
be defiled <02930> (8738), and have done <04603> (8799) trespass
<04604> against her husband . . . 28 And if the woman <0802> be not
defiled <02930> (8738), but be clean; . . . 29 . . . when a wife <0802>
goeth aside <07847> (8799) to another instead of her husband <0376>,
and is defiled <02930> (8738);
02930 tame' {taw-may'}; v
1) to be unclean, become unclean, become impure
1b) (Niphal 8738)
1b1) to defile oneself, be defiled
1b1a) sexually
Lev 15: 32 This is the law <08451> of . . . him whose seed <02233>
<07902> goeth <03318> (8799) from him, and is defiled <02930> (8800)
therewith;
33 . . . and of him that hath <02100> (8802) an issue <02101>, of the
man <02145>, and of the woman <05347>, . . . .
From the useage of the word in the passages below and above, we see how
Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary describes these sexual acts in its
definition of intercourse, "3: physical sexual contact between individuals that
involves the genitalia of at least one person." We know that sexual relations are
relations where one relates to another by means of a sex organ, the
penis, scrotum, pudenda, vulva, labia, clitoris, and/or vagina. So the
full meaning of
Lev 18:22 * And thou shalt not have genital contact with mankind, as one has genital
contact with a woman: it is an abomination.
++++Dt 22:28 * If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not
betrothed, and lay hold on her, and have genital contact with her
<07901>, and they be found; 29 * Then the man that had genital contact
with her<07901> shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be
his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his
days.
++++Ex22: 16* ¶ And if a man seduce a virgin that is not betrothed, and
lie<07901-shakab> with her, he shall certainly endow her, to be his
wife.
Strong's Lexicon: <07901> shakab {shaw-kab'}; Qal; v: to lie (of sexual
relations); of relating to another sexually, i.e. relating to another
by means of an external sex organ, penis or pudenda/vulva/labia/clitoris/vagina.
A man sexually relates to a woman by genital to genital sex, genital to
mouth sex, genital to hand sex, genital to anal sex - in fact by penis to
almost any part of a woman. In the case of the last three of these, the
genital and or breasts of the woman need not be involved for it to be
Shakab-Koitayn<7901> sex.
A woman sexually relates to a man by genital to genital sex, genital to
mouth sex, genital to hand sex, genital to anal sex - in fact by penis to
almost any part of a woman. In the case of the last three of these, the
genital of the man need not be involved for it to be
Shakab-Koitayn<7901> sex.
A homosexual relates to a man by genital to genital sex, genital to
mouth sex, genital to hand sex, genital to anal sex - in fact by penis
to almost any part of a woman. In the case of the last three of these,
the genital of one of the males need not be involved for it to be
Shakab-Koitayn<7901> sex.
***We know that it is sex sin for a man to touch and/or do the breasts
of a woman who is not his own (Prov 5:19,20,21; Ezek 23:3,8,21; Acts
21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20). So it is a sex sin for a woman to let a man
who is not her own man touch and/or do her breasts. Cartoons and
animations that portray such sex sin and people who do such sex sin should
be avoided by disciples of Jesus Christ. "25 . . . we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should abstain from . . . sexual immorality.? Acts 21 ESV
***We know that it is sex sin for a man to see, touch and/or do the
pudenda, vulva, clitoris, and/or vagina of a woman who is not his own
woman (Prov 5:19,20,21; Ezek 23:3-21; Acts 21:16-26; 1 Cor 6:9-20).
Since the anus is usually just an inch from the vagina, it is logical
that it would come under the same principles as the vagina. It is an
acrobatic feet to cover the vagina but not the anus, to touch the anus
and not touch the vagina. So it is sex sin for a woman to let a man
(who is not her own man) see, touch and/or do her pudenda,
vulva, clitoris, vagina and/or anus. Cartoons and animations that
portray such sex sin and people who do such sex sinshould be avoided by
disciples of Jesus Christ.
"25 . . . we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should
abstain from . . . sexual immorality.? Acts 21 ESV
***We know that it is sex sin for a married woman to touch the genitals
of a man who is not her own man (De 25:11,12). Cartoons and animations
that portray such sex sin and people who do such sex sin should be avoided by disciples of Jesus
Christ. "25 . . . we have sent a letter with our judgment that they
should abstain from . . . sexual immorality.? Acts 21 ESV
[19.] Homosexuality, bisexuality, lesbianism
>>>>>Homosexuality and ROMANS 1:26,27,32<<<<<<<<<
ROM 1: 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile and strong sexually excessive desires<3806>; for both their females changed the natural instinctive<5446> sexual intercourse<5540> into that contrary to natural reproduction<5449>; 27 and similarly <3668> the males also, leaving the natural instinctive<5446> sexual intercourse<5540> with the female, were inflamed in their lust [=very strong and sinful sexual desire] towards one another; males with males working out fully <2716> [their] external genitals<808>, and receiving in themselves the recompense of their error which was fit. . . . 32 who knowing the righteous judgment of God, that they who do such things are worthy of death, not only practise them, but have fellow delight in those who do [them]. DBY + Strong's and Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon
ROM 1:26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. MEN COMMITTED INDECENT ACTS WITH OTHER MEN, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. . . 32 Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. NIV
ROM 1:26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. . . . 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them. NASB
>>>>>Homosexuality and 1 CORINTHIANS 6:9, 10<<<<<
1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the unrighteous and the wrongdoers will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure and immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor boys kept for homosexuality, nor males who participate in sexual contact involving anal or oral copulation with males., 10 Nor cheats (swindlers and thieves), nor greedy graspers, nor drunkards, nor foulmouthed revilers and slanderers, nor extortioners and robbers will inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God. AB with Strong's Greek Lexicon
1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. NIV
1 Corinthians 6:9
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. NASB
>>>>>>>>>Homosexuality and 1 TIMOTHY 1:10<<<<<<<<
1 Tim 1: 9Knowing and understanding this: that the Law is not enacted for the righteous (the upright and just, who are in right standing with God), but for the lawless and unruly, for the ungodly and sinful, for the irreverent and profane, for those who strike and beat and [even] murder fathers and strike and beat and [even] murder mothers, for manslayers,
10[For sexually] impure and immoral persons, nor males who participate in sexual contact involving anal or oral copulation with males., , kidnapers, liars, perjurers--and whatever else is opposed to wholesome teaching and sound doctrine.
1 Timothy 1:9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderer
and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, NASB
1 Timothy 1:9 understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,
ESV
>>>*** Lev 18:22 * And you shalt not have genital contact<07901> with mankind as one has genital contact with a woman: it is an abomination. 23 And you shalt have genital contact<07901> with no beast to become unclean therewith; and a woman shall not stand before a beast to have genital contact<07901> with it: it is confusion.
[Strong's 07901 shakab {shaw-kab'};
1) to lie down
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to lie, lie down, lie on, to lie (of sexual relations, relating to another by means of a sex organ)]
The 3rd Century B.C. Jewish translators who gave us the Septuagint
translateded the Hebrew "Shakab" as "Koitayn" in the Greek. Koitayn is rendered by Linguists Strong and Thayer as "cohabitation, . . . sexual intercourse." Harper's Analytical Greek Lexicon agrees. Linguists Arndt & Gingrich go even further rendering it as "sexual intercourse, . . . seminal emission (Num 5:20 . . . Lev 15:16f, 32; 18:20; 22:4 . . .)." This is the Greek word used in Heb 13:4 of marital sex in the marriage bed. To have sexual intercourse with
someone is to be communicating and/or interacting with someone by
means of a sex organ (penis, pudenda, vulva, clitoris, vagina - see Ezek 23). Ezek 23 also shows us that it is also sin, with promised punishment/consequences to sexually communicate/interact with a female, other than your own God given heterosexual marital partner, by means of her breasts.
>>>Ezekiel 23: 2 Son of man, there were two women, daughters of one mother. 3* And they committed SEX SIN in Egypt; they committed SEX SIN in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, squeezed, handled, and there were handled, pressed, squeezed the nipples of their virginity. . . . 8* Neither left she her SEX SINS brought from Egypt; for in her youth they had [SEXUALLY] lain with her, and had handled, pressed, and squeezed the breasts and nipples of her virginity, and poured their sex sin upon her. . . 10* These laid bare and made known her pudenda and vagina, . . . . . . 17* And the children of Babylon came to her into the SEXUAL LYING DOWN of lovemaking, and they came on and with her with their SEX SIN; she too climaxed herself with them , and her soul was alienated from them. . . . . 18* And she laid bare and made known her sex sins, and laid bare and made known her pudenda and vagina; 19 Yet she multiplied her sex sins, remembering the days of her youth in which she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt. 20 and SHE EVILLY DESIRED THEIR FEMALE PARAMOURS*, whose flesh/genital is [as] the flesh of asses, and whose issue is [as] the issue of horses. 21 And she made the memory of the loose ways of her early years come back to mind, in the handling and using of your breasts and nipples by the Egyptians, for the [desire of your]breasts of your youth. . . . [Ezek 23]
[*Everywhere that Hebrew word is found in the OT it is a female = lesbianism & bisexuality]
>>>Homosexuality and REV 21:8<<<<<<<
Caps are mine
CONTEXT: HEB 5:14 But solid food is for full-grown men, for those whose senses and mental faculties are trained by practice to discriminate and distinguish between what is MORALLY good and noble and what is evil and contrary either to divine or human law. AB
CONTEXT:Romans 1:28
And because they did not think it worthwhile to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them over to a worthless mind to do what is MORALLY wrong.
CONTEXT: James 1:21
Therefore, get rid of all MORAL filth and the evil that is so prevalent and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you. TNIV
Rev 21:8 But as for the cowards and the ignoble and the contemptible and the cravenly lacking in courage and the cowardly submissive, and as for the unbelieving and faithless, and as for the depraved and defiled with abominations, and as for murderers and those who have sexual contact with females who aren't their own marital partners , and the practicers of magic arts and the idolaters and all liars --[all of these shall have] their part in the lake that blazes with fire and brimstone. This is the second death. AB
REV 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the SEXUALLY IMMORAL, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." NIV
REV 21:8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the SEXUALLY IMMORAL, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death. ESV
[20.] THE POSITIVE SIDE OF THE SEX COIN
Prov 5:18 Your genital should be blessed; and have joy of the wife of
your youth. 19 As a lovely hind and a graceful roe, her breasts should
satisfy you at all times: be ravished in orgasmic ecstasy continually
with her lovemaking.
His part is clear, but do you understand that the wife has to be
willing for him to do this, that she has to be willing, ready and able
for him to do this? You might do like the Shulamite did in the Bible's
Song of Solomon or like Queen
Esther (Esther 2:9-12), rubbing edible oils (almond, butter, honey, all
the bottled flavors, cinnamon etc) on your breasts and body to
encourage him to take you into his mouth in ecstasy. He is under
command to find sexual and emotional
satisfaction with your breasts, and to be in orgasmic ecstasy with your
love making. Your part is to be willing, ready and able, encouraging
him to do so.
You must do all in your power to keep him from turning to another for
the sexual fulfillment his testosterone driven mind seeks.
Prov 5:20 And why should you, my son, be ravished inorgasmic ecstasy
with an immoral woman, and embrace the bosom of one who doesn't belong
to you? 21 For the ways of man are before the eyes of the LORD Jesus,
and He pondereth all his goings. 22 His own iniquities shall take the
wicked himself, and he shall be holden with the
cords of his sins. 23 He shall die without instruction; and in the
greatness of his folly he shall go astray. [PROV 5 ]
From 1Cor 7 = 2But because of sexual immorality, each man SHOULD [i.e. is under the absolute
command that requires full obedience to] be [SEXUALLY] HAVING/HOLDING/ POS-
SESSING his own wife, CLOSELY [AND SEXUALLY] ADHERING, CLINGING TO [her], and each woman SHOULD [i.e. is under the absolute command that requires full obedience to] be [FONDLY AND AFFECTIONATELY] HAVING/HOLDING/POSSESSING her own
husband CLOSELY [AND AFFECTIONATELY] ADHERING, CLINGING TO [him].
From 1 Cor 7:3 = The husband should give to his wife the kindness, benevolence and good will in the marital/conjugal rights that he owes to her and is morally bound to give her, and likewise the wife should give to her husband the kindness, benevolence and good will in the marital/conjugal rights that she owes to him and is morally bound to give to her husband.
From 1 Cor 7:4. The woman doesn't have [sexual] authority over her own body, but the husband [does]; in like manner also the man doe sn't have [sexual] authority over his own body, but the woman [does].
From 1 Cor 7:5 Do not be denying each other [sexually], unless, it may be, by consent for a time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer, and again be conjugally cohabiting [sexually reuniting], that Satan tempt you not because of your incontinency. . . .
A word to the ladies about their marital sex and affectionate
embracing - if you want your man to hold you, hold his penis. If you
want your man to embrace and caress you, embrace and caress his penis.
If you want your man to stroke and massage you, stroke and massage his
penis. Think of it as a control stick, a computer joy stick, and get
the results you want.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BiblicalSexVsSexSin - - - - - - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SexProbsAndRecoveryInJesus - -
http://www.flickr.com/groups/biblical-sex/ - - -
http://groups.myspace.com/TeensSexAndJesus - - - -
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/SexScriptureChristiansAndJesus -
>>>http://groups.msn.com/GodMadeThemMaleAndFemale/
SexMeet up: http://ac-christians.meetup.com/159/?gj=sj8
Marital problems, Biblical solutions, and Christian advice
From/by Tyler April 2009
<1.> Father and child abandoned by wife
<2> Husband/Father encouraging divorce for wife and four kids so he can have another
<3.> Wife signs divorce papers at husband's request
<4.> Father and daughter abandoned by wife
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<1.> Father and child abandoned by wife<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Hi qwert, You wrote the following and I respond at ===
> --- On Tue, qwert wrote:
>
> From: qwert
> Subject: Very Saddened
> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 7:56 AM
>
> Morning,
>
>>>> My wife and I have been married for ## years. Been together for ## as a couple. We have a # year old daughter. This past Saturday, my wife asked me for a divorce. This has been some time in coming and I know that the idea has been out there, but I never thought it would take place. I love my wife very very deeply, but our carriers, social paths and personalities have changed us and our relationship with each other.
===Been there done that. After 15 years of marriage my exwife and the mother of my children left me the day after Christmas. She had given me 30 days notice but I didn't believe she would do it. First you weep and grieve. Then you fast and pray. I recommend the working man's fast, Daniel's Daniel chapter 10 fast. I did Esther's (Esther 4) total fast in my desperation without proper preparation but the Lord was merciful and met me in and got me through it, turning my life around in the process. The you run to the Lord in the Word, and the Word says she has the right to separate herself from you, by legal separation or by divorce.***
***1 Cor 7:10 I command the married —not I, but the Lord—a wife is not to leave her husband. 11 But if she does leave, she must remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband—and a husband is not to leave his wife.
>
>>>> I'm in a world of hurt at the moment, not only for myself, but also for our daughter. Because of financial obligations that my wife and I have together, we can't divorce right away. I have moved into the extra bedroom - which has been the hardest on me, because I'm so used to my wife being at my side at night.
===Hurt, offense and grieving one by one's own actions or decisions is very serious sin according to the Word in Romans 14.
If you don't want her to leave or believe she shouldn't leave, I believe that the Word for you next is
***2 Tim 2:24 The Lord's slave must not quarrel, but must be gentle to everyone, able to teach, and patient, 25 instructing his opponents with gentleness. Perhaps God will grant them repentance to know the truth. 26 Then they may come to their senses and escape the Devil's trap, having been captured by him to do his will.
===and
***Mat 18:15 "If your brother sins against you, go and rebuke him in private. If he listens to you, you have won your brother. 16 But if he won't listen, take one or two more with you, so that by the testimony of two or three witnesses every fact may be established.
===If you consent to her leaving and you are not under God's command to be married because of your failure to consistently abstain from sex sin (in thought or deed)
***1 Cor 7: 2 But because of sexual immorality, each man should be having his own wife, and each woman should be having her own husband. 3 A husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise a wife to her husband. 4 A wife does not have authority over her own body, but her husband does. Equally, a husband does not have authority over his own body, but his wife does. 5 Do not be depriving one another—except when you agree, for a time, to devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again; otherwise, Satan may tempt you because of your lack of self-control. . . . 9 But if they do not have self-control, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with desire.
===so not being under command to be married, and having the gift of celibacy, you could go on unmarried and divorced and be blessed in the Lord.
>
>>>>> Our daughter is coming to realize what is happening. We've told her that if she has questions, to go ahead and ask them. We're being very open and truthful with how this is going. We've also noticed that our daughter has been weepy at odd times and lashed out at least twice when we've asked her to get ready for bed and wash her hands after using the bathroom at dinner time. Lashing out has never been acceptable in either my eyes or my wife's, so we can only assume that this is in response to what's happening with the divorce.
===Your wife, saved or unsaved, is going to be disciplined by the Lord for the offense she is causing your daughter
***# Mark 9:42 "But whoever causes the downfall of one of these little ones who believe in Me —it would be better for him if a heavy millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea.
***Luke 17:2 It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea than for him to cause one of these little ones to stumble.
>
>>>>> We both agree that we can work out the divorce without involving the courts. We want what's best for each other and especially our daughter. 50/50 with joint custody and complete visitation. We are still a team and best friends, if nothing else.
>
>>>>> I'm a retired minister - having worked in churches for ## years (most of which was during our early marriage), so I know the Biblical stance on Divorce. I hate the very idea, but now that I'm standing on the precipice, I can only ask God's guidance and love for all three of us.
>
> I guess I'm still in the grieving process here. All I can do is ask that y'all pray for all three of us.
>
> Thank you for your time and support.
>
> ~=qwert
***Mat 5:31 "It was also said, Whoever divorces his wife must give her a written notice of divorce. 32 But I tell you, everyone who divorces his wife, except in a case of sexual immorality, causes her to commit adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. . . . 19:8 He told them, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because of the hardness of your hearts. But it was not like that from the beginning. 9 And I tell you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery."
***Mark 10:10 Now in the house the disciples questioned Him again about this matter. 11 And He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. 12 Also, if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."
===Knowing the seriousness of the sin of adding to God's Word (Mark 7 and Matt 15:1-10)
it is interesting to note, especially in your case, that it is not declared to be adultery if she divorces/leaves you and you marry another in the Lord, but whoever marries her commits adultery. If there is no reconciliation and you come to the place where you realize you need to be married, please let me know and I would like to share the Word with you on remarriage.
Tyler
Ezelstone@gmail.com
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<2> Husband/Father encouraging divorce for wife and four kids so he can have another.
Dear asdfg, you wrote the following and I respond at ===
Re: Very Saddened
Posted by: asdfg
Date: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:54 pm ((PDT))
My husband keeps telling me I need to move on, we are not divorced yet, but he moved on a long time ago when he had his affair. He was my first love and I will always love him, but... I am going to be happy without him.
asdfg
Mother of # beautiful children
Teacher
===First you weep, and weep with friends if possible. Then you fast and pray, at least the working man's fast Daniel used in Daniel 10:1-5. Then you run to the Word.
***1 Cor 7:15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let him leave. A brother or a sister is not bound in such cases. God has called you to peace.
===The Greek of that passage is very enlightening, for the phrase "let him leave" literally means that "he should move himself away". "Should" is a powerful Word, especially when it is Spirit inspired. If he does not leave you and renews the marriage in answer to prayer and fasting, then take it from the Lord. If he leaves you, part of your ordeal is to accept God's Word that "he should move himself away" from you, that it is God's will for him to leave you, that it is God's will for you to go on with Him without your husband, and that after he leaves you then you are free in the Kingdom of God to marry a godly man in the Lord (that means he is not an unbeliever - 2 Cor 6:14-7:1 - and not a "Christian" snared in sin - 2 Thess 3:6-14; 1 Cor 5:11 ).
***she is free to be married to anyone she wants—only in the Lord.
===If you are not under command to marry
***1 Cor 7: 2 But because of sexual immorality, each man should be having his own wife, and each woman should be having her own husband. 3 A husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise a wife to her husband. 4 A wife does not have authority over her own body, but her husband does. Equally, a husband does not have authority over his own body, but his wife does. 5 Do not be depriving one another—except when you agree, for a time, to devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again; otherwise, Satan may tempt you because of your lack of self-control. . . . 9 But if they do not have self-control, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with desire.
===and have the gift of being able to go on without sexual temptation, consistently able to live abstaining from sex sin (in thought or deed), then you are able to be devoted to the Lord without distraction
***1 Cor 7:32 I want you to be without concerns. An unmarried man is concerned about the things of the Lord—how he may please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the things of the world—how he may please his wife— 34 and he is divided. An unmarried woman or a virgin is concerned about the things of the Lord, so that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the things of the world—how she may please her husband. 35 Now I am saying this for your own benefit, not to put a restraint on you, but because of what is proper, and so that you may be devoted to the Lord without distraction.
===I hope some of this is useful to you.
Tyler
A retired teacher
Ezelstone@gmail.com
------------------4/25/09-
Hi asdfg,
Please seriously consider following the Lord's directions to determine whether or not your husband is genuinely saved in Jesus, because the answer to that determination will show you how to relate to him, what to do about him. If he is found to not be a genuine disciple of Jesus and he separates himself from you, then you are free to remarry and move on with your life, according to 1 Cor 7:10-15. If he is genuinely saved, then things get complicated. Jesus tells you what to do about him in 2 Tim 2:24-26 with Matt 18:15,16,17.
***15 "If your brother sins against you, go and rebuke him in private. If he listens to you, you have won your brother. 16 But if he won't listen, take one or two more with you, so that by the testimony of two or three witnesses every fact may be established. 17 If he pays no attention to them, tell the church. But if he doesn't pay attention even to the church, let him be like an unbeliever and a tax collector to you.
If he doesn't pay attention to the church, get some of the church to do 1 Cor 5:3-5 with you about him. If nothing negative and unusual happens to him within six months - no serious weakness, no serious sickness or loss - and he goes on successfully with the other woman, then Jesus tells you to "let him be like an unbeliever and a tax collector to you."
Then you know you are to relate to him according to 1 Cor 7:12-15 and you are maritally free from him, free to remarry if the Lord provides for you in your future.
You might disagree with me on this next part, but at least think and pray about it before you dismiss it. If you have done Matt 18:15-17 with 1 Cor 5:3-5 and the Lord has allowed Satan to make him seriously weak or ill and he repents of his plan to leave you for another, in the godly sorrow of 2 Cor 7 - - - - - - - - - -
***9 Now I am rejoicing, not because you were grieved, but because your grief led to repentance. For you were grieved as God willed, so that you didn't experience any loss from us. 10 For godly grief produces a repentance not to be regretted and leading to salvation, but worldly grief produces death. 11 For consider how much diligence this very thing—this grieving as God wills—has produced in you: what a desire to clear yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what deep longing, what zeal, what justice! In every way you have commended yourselves to be pure in this matter.
- - - - - - - - - - - then you have two choices, plan A and Plan B. Plan A is that you reconcile and reunite with Him _ - - - - - - - - -
***6 The punishment by the majority is sufficient for such a person, 7 so now you should forgive and comfort him instead; otherwise, this one may be overwhelmed by excessive grief. 8 Therefore I urge you to confirm your love to him. 9 It was for this purpose I wrote: so I may know your proven character, if you are obedient in everything. 10 Now to whom you forgive anything, I do too. For what I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, it is for you in the presence of Christ, 11 so that we may not be taken advantage of by Satan; for we are not ignorant of his intentions.
_ - - - - - - - - - - - - Plan B is that you exercise you celibate separation option - - - -
***1Cor 7:10 I command the married —not I, but the Lord—a wife is not to leave her husband. 11 But if she does leave, she must remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband—and a husband is not to leave his wife.
You see there is not one Scripture in the New Testament that says adultery or sex sin terminates or ends the marriage of two genuine believers. Malachi 2 shows that God hates divorce, no matter who is divorcing who, or who is divorced by who. Why would you want to do anything God hates, unless He has made it crystal clear in Scripture that you should or you man, as in the case of the unbeliever leaving the believer, freeing the believer to remarry. Even under the Law, the divorce of Deut 24 was never commanded, but was provided for the hardness of their hearts. Even in Mat 5 and 19 where Jesus provides the remarriage option for the man whose wife has been unfaithful, He does not command that the husband divorce her.
In the case of two genuinely saved people, even Matt 5 and 19 show that even if she has been unfaithful and he divorces her for her sexual sin, she is not free to remarry and anyone who marries her does so in adultery - - - - because she is still maritally bound to him in the Lord - - - - - -
***Mark 10:11 And He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. 12 Also, if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."
***Mat 5:32 But I tell you, everyone who divorces his wife, except in a case of sexual immorality, causes her to commit adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. . . . 19:9 And I tell you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery, and he who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
Why is it adultery to marry a genuinely saved woman who is divorced from her own genuinely saved husband, even if the divorce was for sexual immorality, given that both were genuinely saved when they were married and were free in Jesus to marry when they married?
***Rom 7:2 For example, a married woman is legally bound to her husband while he lives. But if her husband dies, she is released from the law regarding the husband. 3 So then, if she gives herself to another man while her husband is living, she will be called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law. Then, if she gives herself to another man, she is not an adulteress.
***1 Cor 7:10 I command the married —not I, but the Lord—a wife is not to leave her husband. 11 But if she does leave, she must remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband . . . 39 A wife is bound as long as her husband is living. But if her husband dies, she is free to be married to anyone she wants—only in the Lord.
You see divorce is not God's way to handle sexual immorality when it occurs between a genuinely saved couple. The Bible indicates clearly that the way a genuinely saved wife handles the sexual sin of her genuinely saved husband is the way shown above, i.e.
Gal 6:1; 2 Tim 2:24-26; Matt 18:15-18 with 1 Cor 3:1-5,11. If the genuinely saved but sexually snared husband survives the Lord's promised chastening (Heb 12; 1 Cor 11:30ff) with its weakness and sickness) and repents in godly sorrow (2 cor 7), he is to be reconciled with his wife (2 Cor 2), if she has not chosen to exercise her separation in celibacy option (1 Cor 7:10,11).
Dear asdfg, please prayerfully consider these Scriptures and their application to you and your situation. Please make sure that you act on the solid rock of Scripture, rather than the opinions and doctrines of people, even Christian people. Religious leaders are often tempted to teach as doctrine their own human doctrines and traditions, which make the Word of God void and ineffective (Mark 7:1-15).
YOU WROTE - and I respond at ===
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 asdfg wrote:
Well, my husband thinks since he repented for his adultery his is just fine with God. Yet he has this love for the other woman so much that he cannot lead his heart back to me.
===There is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof is death (Prov 16:25). It doesn't matter what your husband thinks. What matters is what God says and thinks. God's Word to him, if he is genuinely saved is "a husband is not to leave his wife" (1Cor 7:11).
He plans on getting back with her, if she accepts him, after the divorce. It is like is is free to marry her since we are divorced and he can go on living his Christian life with the woman he loves, the relationship with this woman that destroyed our marriage.
===If he is genuinely saved, the Lord won't let him get away with that, either by weakness, sickness, or the death of his body (1 Cor 5:3-5; 11:30ff)
My children will have to have a relationship with her. I pray she does not take him back or if she does, it doesn't last long. I don't know how it could since it was a relationship based on lies and the excitement of an affair will not be there anymore, they are just two people now, divorced.
I have no plans to remarry, have no desire. I want to draw near to God. Thank you for the verses, know them all by heart by now. I have been a Christian for a long time, don't even want to calculate, at least 30 years.
===Follow the leading of the Spirit and the Word, but remember His Word that warns Christian couples about trying to abstain from sex after they are married
******1 Cor 7: 1* ¶ But concerning the things of which ye have written to me: It is good for a man not to continue -keep on - touching a woman; 2 but because of sexual immorality each man should be [sexually] having his own woman, and each woman should be [sexually] having her own man. . . .4. The woman doesn't have [sexual] authority over her own body, but the husband [does]; in like manner also the man doe sn't have [sexual] authority over his own body, but the woman [does]. 5 Do not be denying each other [sexually], unless, it may be, by consent for a time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer, and again be conjugally cohabiting [sexually reuniting], that Satan tempt you not BECAUSE OF YOUR INCONTINENCY . . . . . 9 But if they do not [Strong's 3756] continue to have self-restraint [keep on abstaining from sex sin], they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with desire. 10 I command the married —not I, but the Lord—a wife is not to leave, depart or separate from [Strong's 5563] her husband. 11 But if she does leave, depart, and/or separate [Strong's 5563], she must remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband—and a husband is not to forsake, lay aside, leave, let, put (send) away, remit [Strongs 863] his wife. . . .
STRONG'S (3756) ouj the absolute negative; adverb; no or not: — + nay, neither, never, no
(x man), none, [can-] not, + nothing,
STRONG'S (1467) ejgkrateu>omai, — eng-krat-yoo’-om-ahee; to exercise self-restraint (in diet and chastity): — contain, be temperate.
STRONG'S (5563) cwri>zw, — kho-rid’-zo; from (5561); to place room between, i.e. part; reflexive to go away: — depart, put asunder, separate.
STRONG'S (863) ajfi>hmi, — af-ee’-ay-mee; from (575); to send forth, in various
applications (as follow): — forsake, lay aside, leave, let (alone, be, go), omit, put (send) away
It is hard when you know you are doing something that God hates, but my husband committed adultery and the consequence is that he lose his marriage. I just wish our country didn't have the laws where he gets to see his children because that should be a consequence as well.
===What makes you think it is God's consequence for him to lose his marriage because of his adultery? You see divorce is not God's way to handle sexual immorality when it occurs between a genuinely saved couple. The Bible indicates clearly that the way a genuinely saved wife handles the sexual sin of her genuinely saved husband is the way shown above, i.e. Gal 6:1; 2 Tim 2:24-26; Matt 18:15-18 with 1 Cor 3:1-5,11. If the genuinely saved but sexually snared husband survives the Lord's promised chastening (Heb 12; 1 Cor 11:30ff) with its weakness and sickness) and repents in godly sorrow (2 cor 7), he is to be reconciled with his wife (2 Cor 2), if she has not chosen to exercise her separation in celibacy option (1 Cor 7:10,11).
asdfg
Mother of 4 beautiful children
Teacher
Praying for you,
Ron
a really tired retired teacher
father of three wonderful daughters
grandfather of ten wonderful grandchildren
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--- On Tue, 4/21/09, zxcvb wrote and I respond below at ===
From: zxcvb
Subject: Re: Very Saddened
Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 7:46 PM
YOU: Thank you all for writing. I finally realize that all the talk and begging was not going to change his mind. I did not want a divorce but he did so as of today I signed the papers to start the divorce.
======First you weep, and weep with friends if possible. Then you fast and pray, at least the working man's fast Daniel used in Daniel 10:1-5. Then you run to the Word.
***1 Cor 7:15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let him leave. A brother or a sister is not bound in such cases. God has called you to peace.
===The Greek of that passage is very enlightening, for the phrase "let him leave" literally means that "he should move himself away". "Should" is a powerful Word, especially when it is Spirit inspired. If he does not leave you and renews the marriage in answer to prayer and fasting, then take it from the Lord. If he leaves you, part of your ordeal is to accept God's Word that "he should move himself away" from you, that it is God's will for him to leave you, that it is God's will for you to go on with Him without your husband, and that after he leaves you then you are free in the Kingdom of God to marry a godly man in the Lord (that means he is not an unbeliever - 2 Cor 6:14-7:1 - and not a "Christian" snared in sin - 2 Thess 3:6-14; 1 Cor 5:11 ).
***7:39she is free to be married to anyone she wants—only in the Lord.
===If you are not under command to marry
***1 Cor 7: 2 But because of sexual immorality, each man should be having his own wife, and each woman should be having her own husband. 3 A husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise a wife to her husband. 4 A wife does not have authority over her own body, but her husband does. Equally, a husband does not have authority over his own body, but his wife does. 5 Do not be depriving one another—except when you agree, for a time, to devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again; otherwise, Satan may tempt you because of your lack of self-control. . . . 9 But if they do not have self-control, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with desire.
===and have the gift of being able to go on without sexual temptation, consistently able to live abstaining from sex sin (in thought or deed), then you are able to be devoted to the Lord without distraction
***1 Cor 7:32 I want you to be without concerns. An unmarried man is concerned about the things of the Lord—how he may please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the things of the world—how he may please his wife— 34 and he is divided. An unmarried woman or a virgin is concerned about the things of the Lord, so that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the things of the world—how she may please her husband. 35 Now I am saying this for your own benefit, not to put a restraint on you, but because of what is proper, and so that you may be devoted to the Lord without distraction.
YOU: I love my husband but he cannot continue playing with my heart. I wanted him back but he didnt want me. Im hurt and still cry but it is what it is. I will be supported the rest of my life by him in or out of the marriage.
=== Please be very wise and be sure to obey the Lord's Word in Luke 6:27-36 and the last half of Romans 12 as you move on through the divorce and support issues come up. Today men have little or no fear of God or Hell and some are violent with their wives, even killing them and the children. Doing Luke 6 and Romans 12 will go far in avoiding violence.
YOU: Only now I will not be put down and made to feel like I am crazy. I thought I was depressed and going crazy now I see that he wasnt treating me the way he as a christain should have treated me.
===The Lord's Word is that you should exercise your separation option (1 Cor 7:10,11) and separate yourself from your husband if he is verbally or physically abusive.
***1 Cor 5:11 But, as things are, I say that you are not to associate with any one who, although a Brother in name, is sexually immoral, or covetous/greedy, or an idolater, or VERBALLY ABUSIVE <3060>, or a drunkard/addict, or a rapacious extortioner (or a ravenous robber) - no, not even to sit at table with such people.
===<3060> loidoros; n m; 1) a railer (one who reviles/scolds another using harsh, unkind, insolent, disrespectful, proud and/or abusive/hurtful language); a reviler (one who subjects another to verbal abuse/hurt, using abusive/hurtful language)
===Paraphrased: 11 But, as things are, I say that you are not to associate with any one who, although a Brother in name, is . . verbally abusive , . . - no, not even to sit at table with such people.
So according to Strong's definition, do not continue to associate, socialize, fellowship or eat with one is called a believer who does the following:
1.) reviles/scolds/rails at another using harsh, unkind, insolent, disrespectful, proud and/or abusive/hurtful language/words;
2.) reviles another, subjecting another to verbal abuse/hurt, using abusive/hurtful language/words;
3.) belittles another, causing another to seem/feel little or less, using abusive/hurtful language/words;
4.) depreciates another publically, causing another to seem/feel little or less, using abusive/hurtful language/words;
===Few Christians are aware of the gravity of the sin of scolding/railing at another using harsh, unkind, insolent, disrespectful, proud and/or emotionally hurtful language/words; of reviling another, abusively subjecting another to verbal hurt, abusively using emotionally hurtful language/words; belittling another, causing another to seem/feel little or less, abusively using emotionally hurtful language/words; and/or depreciating another publically, causing another to seem/feel little or less, abusively using emotionally hurtful language/words
YOU: I will miss him but I am hoping that one day I will stop loving him so much that I will be happy again. zxcvb
===If he leaves you, part of your ordeal is to accept God's Word that "he should move himself away" from you, that it is God's will for him to leave you, that it is God's will for you to go on with Him without your husband, and that after he leaves you then you are free in the Kingdom of God to marry a godly man in the Lord (that means he is not an unbeliever - 2 Cor 6:14-7:1 - and not a "Christian" snared in sin - 2 Thess 3:6-14; 1 Cor 5:11 ).
***7:39she is free to be married to anyone she wants—only in the Lord.
I hope some of this helps.
Tyler
Ezelstone@gmail.com
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Tyler responds below at ===
--- On Tue, 4/21/09, poiuy wrote:
From:poiuy
Subject: Re:Very Saddened
Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 2:47 PM
I also went thru a nasty divorce and just because my ex wife found a man who made lots of money selling realistate.Its been # years since she left and now I am the happiest man in the world and also involved in # churches and pray daily.I also knew my ex wife had depression during our ## years of marriage which I didn't see during the time we where dating.I believed in my vow till death do us part and under no circumstances would I have divorced my wife unless she was doing drugs ,drinking or fooling around.Yes people change the spark wears off,but again I believe if I was marry to a believer osuch as I was and goes to church I would still be marry today.A vow is a vow you take with you when you get marry and should not be broken unless or else fails and you did what you could or she or he would not coroperate in which that was my case.Yes its going to be tough on your daugher as it was with my # daughters and life will never be the same again.When I said I was the happiest man today is because I am walking with the lord and living it.I will pray for the three of you..
God Bless,
======The Greek of 1 Cor 7:15 is very enlightening, for the phrase "let him leave" literally means that "he should move himself away". "Should" is a powerful Word, especially when it is Spirit inspired. If he does not leave you and renews the marriage in answer to prayer and fasting, then take it from the Lord. If he leaves you, part of your ordeal is to accept God's Word that "he should move himself away" from you, that it is God's will for him to leave you, that it is God's will for you to go on with Him without your husband, and that after he leaves you then you are free in the Kingdom of God to marry a godly man in the Lord (that means he is not an unbeliever - 2 Cor 6:14-7:1 - and not a "Christian" snared in sin - 2 Thess 3:6-14; 1 Cor 5:11 ).
***7:39she is free to be married to anyone she wants—only in the Lord.
===If you are not under command to marry
***1 Cor 7: 2 But because of sexual immorality, each man should be having his own wife, and each woman should be having her own husband. 3 A husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise a wife to her husband. 4 A wife does not have authority over her own body, but her husband does. Equally, a husband does not have authority over his own body, but his wife does. 5 Do not be depriving one another—except when you agree, for a time, to devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again; otherwise, Satan may tempt you because of your lack of self-control. . . . 9 But if they do not have self-control, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with desire.
===and have the gift of being able to go on without sexual temptation, consistently able to live abstaining from sex sin (in thought or deed), then you are able to be devoted to the Lord without distraction
***1 Cor 7:32 I want you to be without concerns. An unmarried man is concerned about the things of the Lord—how he may please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the things of the world—how he may please his wife— 34 and he is divided. An unmarried woman or a virgin is concerned about the things of the Lord, so that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the things of the world—how she may please her husband. 35 Now I am saying this for your own benefit, not to put a restraint on you, but because of what is proper, and so that you may be devoted to the Lord without distraction.
===I hope some of this is useful to you.
Tyler
A retired teacher
Ezelstone@gmail.com
How to be saved in Jesus and know it.
Dear Reader,d o you know exactly where you stand with the
God and Creator of the universe? Have you asked Him to be your
Father in the Heavens? Have you believed/trusted/relied/depended
on the Lord/King Jesus Christ ---the God anointed Saviour King of
Israel ----to save you from your faults, failures and mistakes?
Salvation from personal faults/failures/mistakes belongs to the
poor in spirit. Matt. 5:3 says, "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is
the kingdom of heaven." If you recognize that you are spiritually
destitute---totally incapable of deserving or earning salvation from
your errors in any way, you are poor in spirit-- you are humble. The
poor in spirit, the humble, understand that they are sinners, totally
impotent to please or to serve God.
To acknowledge that you are a sinner unable to save yourself is
humility. Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners (1 Tim.
1:15). Isaiah said, "When You make His soul an offering for sin, He
shall see [His] seed. He shall prolong [His] days and the pleasure of the
Lord shall prosper in His hand. He shall see the distressing travail of
His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant
shall justify many, for He shall bear their iniquities."
Poverty of spirit (humility) is interwoven in the act of
repentance, the life-altering change of mind about you, your sin and
God. When you repent (change your mind), you see yourself as you
really are and you change your mind in respect to your relationship to
God the Father and to His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. The act of
repentance brings you to see your sin as ugly as it is, as God sees it, and
you come to a point where you want to be free from it.
Of course, freedom from sin comes only by believing/trusting/
relying on the Lord Jesus Christ. The one who is regularly committing
sin is the slave of sin. However, if the Son shall set you free from
regularly committing sin, you shall be free indeed (John 8:334,36)
The poor in spirit see their impotence to free themselves from
sin/failures/faults/errors. They see that freedom is possible only
through Christ's death for us as our substitute. They recognize that
salvation/deliverance comes by God's act of undeserved and
unmeritted kindness and mercy alone. They choose to believe God
and His Word about themselves and their relationship with Him.
One cannot speak of the Crucifixion apart from the Resurrection.
It is the resurrection that gives us newness of life. Christ's resurrection
testifies to two vital truths. One, it shows that God was propitiated, or
satisfied, with the substitutionary death of Jesus Christ. Jesus became
the bearer of our sins. Isaiah's word is "But he was wounded/pierced
for our transgressions, bruised/crushed for our iniquities; The
chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes (from the
cutting whips) we are healed." In Romans 4:25 we read, "[He] who was
delivered up because of our transgressions, and was raised [from the
dead] because of our justification." "Raised because of our justifica-
tion" means that because Jesus' payment (the death of His body) for our
sins was adequate to satisfy the demands of justice and a Holy God,
God could then declare us righteous, justified and made acceptable in
His sight. Jesus was raised from death because His death for us satisfied
the righteousness of our Holy God.
His resurrection shows us that Jesus Christ conquered death.
Death had a holdover man because of his sin/error/failures/faults.
However, once the death penalty of sin was paid for by the death of
Christ's body, death no longer had any holding power. "The sting of
death is sin, and the power of sin is the law" (1 Corinth. 15:56). Jesus
paid the price of redemption, redeeming us from the curse of the Law,
having become a curse for us ---for cursed was everyone who was hung
on a tree/stake (Deut. 21:23; Gala. 3:13).
His death took away the power of sin. Jesus also took the stinger
out of death by paying for our sin so that we need have no fear of what
awaits us in and after death. Because our sin debt is paid for in full by
Christ, death has no power over us.
Dear reader, have you come to the end of yourself? Have you
seen your total impotence, your total unworthiness? Have you seen
your nothingness apart from God? And have you seen Jesus, God the
Son who took upon Himself flesh and blood that He might die for you
and for all people? Have you decided that you want His Way and Will
in and for your life instead of your own will and way?
Do you believe that? Do you believe He died in your place? Do
you believe that He was made sin for you, so that you, a helpless and
hopeless enemy of God, might have His righteousness and His life?
Have you repented---turned away from self-will to believe on the Lord
Jesus Christ----the God anointed Saviour King of Israel? Out loud with
your mouth agree with God about the God anointed Saviour King of
Israel, and you will be saved, "for with the heart man believes,
resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses [Jesus],
resulting in salvation." Romans 10:10-13.
A PRAYER FOR TODAY
Holy God and Father of the risen and living King Jesus,
I praise You for the wonder that You are. Father, I
thank You for showing and proving Your Love for me by
revealing Yourself as Jesus Christ of Bethlehem. I accept Jesus
as my refuge, strength and very present help in the trouble of
this world, in the trouble of male-female relationships in this
world today. Holy Father, I acknowledge my own personal
inadequacy for the trials of this world. Merciful God, I
acknowledge that apart from You I am a part of the
problem of this world, not a part of the remedy for this world.
Holy Father, I agree with You that apart from Jesus I can do
no good thing of eternal merit. I give my body, soul,
strength and mind to You as Jesus enables me. I accept only
Jesus as my King, my Saviour, my Director, my Shepherd and
my daily Deliverer. Holy Father, I ask Jesus to come into me
and live in me and work in me for me to become Your child, and
to become what You want me to be. Father, I acknowledge my
total daily need of You and my total dependence on You to live
well, safely and successfully. Thank You for suffering so much
in Jesus for me. Thank You for being my Abba Father,
my Shepherd, my Counselor, my Companion and my Comforter.
I trust You to keep me safe in Your hand, and in Your loving
embrace, by Jesus.
Joel 2: 32 And it shall be, whoever shall call on the name of the LORD
shall be saved; for salvation shall be in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem,
as the LORD has said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
Ps 119:6 Then I shall not be ashamed, when I have respect to all Your
commandments.
Ps 119:80 Let my heart be sound in Your statutes, so that I may not be
ashamed.
Ps 119:116 Uphold me according to Your word, that I may live; and let
me not be ashamed of my hope.